Incidentally the freedombone.net site is created with org-mode then exported as html. You can specify a css file and such. Doing it that way makes site maintenance trivial.
@mmn @fnadde42 It's always the case that if you don't care about freedom or having control over your systems then whenever the latest and trendiest chat app comes out then you'll switch to it in a heartbeat. Possibly the solution here could be Matrix. That way the trendy people can still use their trendy app until they find that the company which makes it never actually believed in openness and decides to turn it into a walled garden.
@clacke @gargron @lambadalambda I didn't like HN much and liked them even less when they blocked Tor browser users. A forum for software engineers would be trivial to create. You could do it on ZeroNet. The main problem would be getting anyone to pay attention to it.
"The way we code the Web will determine the way we live online. So we need to bake our values into our code. Freedom of expression needs to be baked into our code. Privacy should be baked into our code. Universal access to all knowledge"
Interesting, although I'm not all that concerned about supporting proprietary messaging services. Interop between XMPP and gnusocial would be good though.
There is also Matrix, which was mentioned earlier elsewhere. https://matrix.org
@vsatayamas Back in the late 19th century Kropotkin did some back of the envelope type calculations for how much "socially necessary labour time" was actually needed, and his estimate was about three hours per day per capable adult (see "The conquest of bread"). Maybe four if you want luxury goods. And that was with the technology of the time, which was mostly horses and carts. Today the amount of socially necessary labour time is probably far less.
@strypey @arunisaac I think there has been some attempt at a W3C standard, but I know that Mike McGirvin (Hubzilla) has no faith in that. Anything implemented needs to be able to define which users can see or interact with what content, otherwise you end up with systems which are public only but of no value for private communications.
@mangeurdenuage this seems like quite immature stuff (and no, I'm not being transphobic). If I were GNU I'd just fork libreboot from before the shitstorm, rename it to "gnuboot" or whatever and find a new maintainer. Even if there is a genuine discrimination case underneath all of this why drag the entire community into it? Surely if it's a personal disagreement then the relevant people should figure things out between themselves.
@strypey @clacke @mikegerwitz it has sometimes been said that web search is a fundamentally centralized thing, but given DHTs and such I'm doubtful about that.