I don't see me getting mad. However, I'm afraid you haven't actually answered me, just ranted. You still haven't mentioned a single !xmpp client by name, unfortunately.
Also, you said you thought we should make a "federated discord". But then you complain about features of federation as if they were downsides (client versatility, adaptability for various disabilities etc.). You claim centralised antifeatures as something positive.
And you still haven't mentioned a single " obnoxious" !xmpp client. Just that they're all horrible. Despite single-click clients that Just Work(tm) are all over the place. Those are web based of course and work in the field all around us. And are federated, free and open source software. !fs
Discord works for people who don't care about software freedom, privacy and security.
Nothing you write is an argument against !xmpp as it fulfills all of these desires.
Please remind me, how do you implement a new feature for Discord? Or maybe remove an antifeature that Discord requires you to use in order to take part of its heavenly bliss?
Oh and what happens when Discord goes bankrupt, get bought up by a less benevolent (not that they're especially nice today...) market actor?
Please can you quantify what makes IRC/XMPP as protocols, free to implement as anyone wants, worse than the centrally controlled Discord, only implementable as Discord allows?
Also: please explain something about !XMPP or IRC that is "hard to use" where Discord excels, but avoid anything that is so because Discord is centrally controlled (your desire was to have something federated, so be constructive).
Assange - has admitted to essentially rape - did some good with Wikileaks - hasn't done good in a fucking long time - skipped out on his house arrest in the UK (which is a crime) - should not be extradited to the US (which are well known to hold barbaric and politically motivated trials and punishments) - especially not for anything WIkileaks-related - probably shouldn't have lost asylum rights (it's a super dangerous precedent) - was not being "illegally detained" in the embassy - he could've walked out at any time to face the music - was, by all accounts, a fucking nuisance and embarassment to have in the embassy
@celesteh @pettter I beg to differ, outsourcing javascript to Google _is_ evil and generally dangerous/insecure.
If javascript or remote resource fetching was defaulted to OFF, it could be ok. Also if websites worked reasonably well without javascript (though, vanilla Wordpress has done so at lrast in the past), it might be excusable.
But opt-out surveillance and benefiting an ad company with a bad track record is in most definitions something evil.
@mxmehl @mikael I'm pretty sure !umehack could (should?) host under an !fsfe owned domain just to make sure they can switch host provider whenever they want for whatever reason.
@mxmehl @mikael I'm pretty sure !umehack could (should?) host under an !fsfe owned domain just to make sure they can switch host provider whenever they want for whatever reason.