fired: "chinese room"
wired: talking astrology with neurotypicals at a party

ironically enough, later today i saw a particularly racist example of the underlying stereotype that gives us the "Chinese Room" example - but guess who the racists in question are 😩: https://ni.hil.ist/@mooncake/108472589406399424

@TakeV ...tfw u've made multiple posts in one day to which this reply could have been to and you fav it thinking it was about the other one :oh_no:

@trebach @RobinHood
> where everything had to be done via touch screen

holy shit why

have they learned nothing, how is this even legal after what happened to Anton Yelchin https://www.core77.com/posts/54026/When-Bad-UI-Design-Kills-Is-Poor-Shift-Lever-Design-to-Blame-for-Death-of-Star-Trek-Actor

(redrafted to clarify what exactly i was responding to)

@RobinHood this just seems like a basic safety thing

let you keep your eyes on the road

let you drive in the cold

@RobinHood anyway i learned from this thread that new cars have touch screen interfaces and the nuclear escalation with russia caused by our own inexorable decline into absolute stupidity can't come fast enough

@brennen @mhoye @zwol all this suddenly reminds me of the overturning of roe v. wade

like, we had that big victory with the antitrust stuff with IE way back in the day and the forces of evil just became totally obsessed and all these decades never stopped until they finally made a breakthrough by sheer attrition

@sean on that note, it occurs to me that this same megastructure of ideas, w/its specific way (whether Evangelical or Orthodox) of understanding how christians can believe the gospel to be objectively true, also leaves me effectively "double-vaxxed" against any denomination of xianity that does *not* actively teach being queer is a sin that must be repented of & abhorred

i respect xians from better denoms but will never understand them

@sean as someone who basically grew straight from That kind of evangelical fundie xianity to That kind of atheism i've been pretty much double-vaxxed against any sort of spirituality - the angel on one shoulder screams i'm associating w/demons & going to hell, the other angel shames me for wasting my life on empty ritual+nonsense

2014-21 really helped fight the latter but that Fear in the former never really left

what @drq describes has been the most comforting option i've got

@zens given what happens when we get to the princess this seems entirely fitting

@koosli

@prehensile ...an evolution, if you will

@prehensile wondering how much that overlap is between these guys, terfs and antivaxxers

the latter two seem to be the application of the mindset of the former

@bri_seven i've heard Mystique had at one point been planned as amab but she could be read as nonbinary anyway

but she's not exactly one of the X-Men

@ifixcoinops a lot of us also internalized the gordon gecko ayn rand stuff about greed

which when combined with a lot of stuff about lust and pride and other individual-freedom "morals" being the wrong thing to base a country's laws on

all works together so that if you condemn "greed" like you assume the audience understands the seven deadly sins are bad and should sometimes be controlled by laws, you actually run into the same wall, but in a way more misleading than if you say capitalism

@ifixcoinops the problem is that... actually a lot of rich people are really nice when you talk to them

they're just
(a) completely fucking clueless about how poor people live
(b) think the real nasty rich people are actually nice like them (because they are nice *to* them)
(c) are usually *legally bound* in the course of their jobs to do horrible things to increase shareholder value

and all *that* really is a systemic problem that moralizing language obscures terribly

requesting anyone who reads this that the next time they have to tell someone what to type in a linux console command with a bunch of parameters

and if the parameters have short and long versions

and the long ones are actual words or even easily recognizable abbreviations

please use the long ones

how many laws throughout history that cite incredibly severe punishments are really the revenge fantasies of lawmakers who keep seeing people get away with the impugned action, who lack the insight to either figure out a way to enforce the existing rules better or limit them into something that can be enforced

@eldang @oleksiy ...they did it to italians too!? :oh_no:

the total lack of any causal relationship between something being popular and something being right includes negative causation

which means that, sometimes, the right thing is also popular

to lose sight of this makes a person vulnerable to all sorts of bizarre fringe quackery just to avoid doing the "normal" thing

@zoec they hated zoe because she told them the truth