I don't see me getting mad. However, I'm afraid you haven't actually answered me, just ranted. You still haven't mentioned a single !xmpp client by name, unfortunately.
Also, you said you thought we should make a "federated discord". But then you complain about features of federation as if they were downsides (client versatility, adaptability for various disabilities etc.). You claim centralised antifeatures as something positive.
And you still haven't mentioned a single " obnoxious" !xmpp client. Just that they're all horrible. Despite single-click clients that Just Work(tm) are all over the place. Those are web based of course and work in the field all around us. And are federated, free and open source software. !fs
Discord works for people who don't care about software freedom, privacy and security.
Yeah, you're right. Just like how it's perfectly fine to say "I care about the environment" and then eat meat every day. Puh-lease. Everyone can stop eating meat as well as use !fs. If not, we should all get together and make sure that organisations and civilians don't depend on proprietary technology because they "have three kids" as an excuse. Having people excuse themselves is counterproductive to the cause. Remember that essentially no tools that people depend on are older than the developers that maintain them. We've barely gone through one generation of software development - it's far too early to declare hypocrisy as justified.
Yeah, GNU/FSF have never put any resources in to GNU social apart from maintaining the general !fs politics worldwide. Originally Evan had startup grants, I just put in my free time (which I barely have any left nowadays) and @diogo got the gsoc stuff.
While I enjoy the !ostatus solution much more than ActivityPub maybr we should see what has been generated "outside" of !gnusocial .) Think of how many people have managed to find their way out on the !fediverse even if it's maybe not via GS specifically. But it's all AGPL .)
@aral The whole point is that if the software is libre, the power is among the commons to use it for good (or bad). The underlying requirement for an open, democratic society is transparency, so in that sense libre software is a requirement. But also - considering it _is_ free/libre - there is nothing contradicting per say in the use of !fs for surveillance, military projects etc.
Let's Encrypt and the !fs communtiy has made it insanely easy to encrypt stuff. And here I've been putting together random scribbles of shellscripting to glue stuff together - and Debian's "letsencrypt" package does just about everything I need.
The most interesting thing about decentralised !fs games is how you decide whether to trust the remote party not to cheat.
If anyone has a paper on how to play games containing secrets without a trusted third party, please contact me. I'm guessing a blockchain is the solution, publishing the hash value of each action for each move and then when the game is over, some secret to verify that all moves were legitimate. ("I have [hash of characters]. I use D,O,G. Now I have [hash of characters]." and in the end publishing the original 8 characters).
One would also have to somehow secure that the opponent isn't using a crafted random seed. So maybe the opponents should send each other a nonce (or just use each other's verification hashes) to make sure the game is fair.
@masoud There's no need to free one's entire device in order to install the flexible repository of !fs that is #F-Droid ;)
Most people I know have already installed F-Droid since it's simply much easier. No hassle with account registration etc. and they get all the software they need through there. (and if it's not there, they can easily receive it from a friend with the built-in app sharing functionality even if the original source is proprietary and closed!)
@bobjonkman @clacke Evan had advertisements on identi.ca from some ad service called Briar I remember. Not sure if they're still around, but the focused on only promoted !fs or something, I believe.
Hi, I'm @mmn, maintainer of GNUsocial. I reacted when it was written that "many people on gnusocial are angry" and wish to say that !GNUsocial has only love and appreciation for #Mastodon and #ActivityPub.
I believe cooperation is important for libre software and the federated social web. I believe our plural and diverse community should embrace and encourage contributors and development. Any progress we want to make - regardless of anyone's preferred technology - is impeded by hostility and empowered by friendship.
So I want to say thank @cwebber @gargron et al. for all the hard work you actively put into ActivityPub. It's awesome that so many users get in touch with !fs via open protocols.