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1. MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2019 04:17:01 UTC MMN-o ✅⃠

   • xmpp
   • legalize ranch :vf:
   Please can you quantify what makes IRC/XMPP as protocols, free to implement as anyone wants, worse than the centrally controlled Discord, only implementable as Discord allows?
   
   Also: please explain something about !XMPP or IRC that is "hard to use" where Discord excels, but avoid anything that is so because Discord is centrally controlled (your desire was to have something federated, so be constructive).
   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2019 11:14:19 UTC MMN-o ✅⃠

     • xmpp
     • legalize ranch :vf:
     You are spewing out shit about certain clients (not protocols, as I asked for) without even naming them.
     
     Which clients have you used for !XMPP that are so obnoxious?
   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2019 15:18:02 UTC MMN-o ✅⃠

     • xmpp
     • legalize ranch :vf:
     Nothing you write is an argument against !xmpp as it fulfills all of these desires.
     
     Please remind me, how do you implement a new feature for Discord? Or maybe remove an antifeature that Discord requires you to use in order to take part of its heavenly bliss?
     
     Oh and what happens when Discord goes bankrupt, get bought up by a less benevolent (not that they're especially nice today...) market actor?
   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2019 04:23:38 UTC MMN-o ✅⃠

     • Free, Libre, and Open Source Software
     • xmpp
     • legalize ranch :vf:
     I don't see me getting mad. However, I'm afraid you haven't actually answered me, just ranted. You still haven't mentioned a single !xmpp client by name, unfortunately.
     
     Also, you said you thought we should make a "federated discord". But then you complain about features of federation as if they were downsides (client versatility, adaptability for various disabilities etc.). You claim centralised antifeatures as something positive.
     
     And you still haven't mentioned a single " obnoxious" !xmpp client. Just that they're all horrible. Despite single-click clients that Just Work(tm) are all over the place. Those are web based of course and work in the field all around us. And are federated, free and open source software. !fs
     
     Discord works for people who don't care about software freedom, privacy and security.
   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2019 17:27:34 UTC MMN-o ✅⃠

     • GNU Social
     • legalize ranch :vf:
     Yes, a bizarre !GNUsocial knockoff. Because Mastodon was the original federated social implementation.
     
     Good bye, and thanks for all the fish.