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"Why should federation grow at all?": I believe that federation only grows by those who will run the instances themselves. Let's forget !gs for a minute. And look at !pumpio: from UI level we know how bad it is, for a user who doesn't want to admin it. But if the "right" techies use it, it will grow.
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"so with our data and written text, no #money is made.": do we know that? your licence there + the standard !gs licence is cc-by, which allows using your data for commercial purposes. Even if not now, later, since it's harvested now by bot, searche engines
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well, on a personal level I remember you doing this, or? you don't subscribe to everybody, but selectively. (But you probably get hit by e.g. me greeting others and so. Which is probably not so ideal for you)
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@simsa0 on the non-individual level: I think we can do better, by forcing splitting of users. I remember Hannes' joke some days ago. something like: it's not true we stopped registration so people learn about federation, s.th. like that. It won't please the newcomers, but it's in their/our interest. Hoping that by that only people stay who like the federation idea (and the others go away again ;-))
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"Why should #federation grow at all?" well, we see that it's not so much growing. For me: it's about meeting like-minded people. E.g. it was a great pleasure to see and talk with @lohang while he set up his instance. Believe me, if I wanted: I'd be running the biggest instances in the !fediverse. And not only the biggest, probably the top10 biggest. But I invest my time not in that, I like to educate them more
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@simsa0 other things an individuum can do is: f.ck on the publicity level of !gs and use 1:1 or 1:few systems (!twister, !bitmessage), there one will also meet like-minded people...
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I remembered one dent of yours, that you also look to whom user A writes/subscribes to.
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it was about the cat-pic spamming and what the individuum can do (have to use the oppotunity for a hierarchical threading pic :-)) https://fediverse.com/attachment/8749
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cat-spamming: you didn't. it was this: "Why do you think you'll get anything else than more cat pics & Justin Bieber videos. Do you really want that?"
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well, not having anymore hierarchical threading hurt !gnusocial, deeply
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well, I mean it's there, but well, you know what I mean
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This is interesting! You conceive of the growth of the federation in terms of the number of servers/nodes involved (and whether it increases). I see it primarily in the number of people using such nodes and the number of (mutual) followings that thusly interconnect the servers/nodes. Your take spreads federation outwards, mine rather inwards.
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yeah, I see it more form the view: what #protects the whole, and that is the servers: e.g. by saving the other server's messages; offering refuge when other is down; ...
Erkan Yılmaz
simsa0
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