@steko Haha, I actually made the post before I read it, but it was actually not about that! It was about the conversation about "stamps" on the fediverse, and peoples' default assumption that this means blockchains

This is your periodic reminder that not all blockchains are cryptocurrencies and not all cryptocurrencies are blockchains.

@e8johan @how @Blort @sl007 I think that was the plan but I'm not the one doing that work!

@karen Yes!

@schmittlauch @lain @emacsen @cjd That's true and full ack (and empathy) there! Your opinions and review are still valuable though :)

@lain @nightpool @emacsen @cjd @gargron @schmittlauch Yes you're completely right. I hear some jerk needs to set up the DNS so everyone can start using the Discourse forum ;)

@lain @emacsen @cjd @schmittlauch @gargron @nightpool I also want to say that we want to be careful about rolling this stuff out in testing stages; Datashards is still in flux and *will be shaped by* the participation of the fediverse. We want to be careful about not rolling it out completely to the wider fediverse before we're sure about how it works.

@lain @emacsen @cjd @schmittlauch I think one thing that happened at APConf is that a lot of us started to get excited about the viability of bringing Datashards to the fediverse. It seems to me that the Pleroma team is looking to take leadership here, and that's really great and increases my confidence.

We didn't have Mastodon devs at the table when these conversations occurred; eventually we want to start looping in @gargron and @nightpool and others about what we're thinking.

The energy in the AP community has never felt higher to me... I think we're seeing even much more excitement than in the first wave of adoption. I'm very excited!

@schmittlauch @cjd @lain @emacsen At least conversations are starting and people are excited!

Both of you have made proposals; nobody has gotten to implementation yet, so it's ok, there's still plenty of time for us to unpack and discuss.

@cjd @schmittlauch @lain @emacsen The good news also is that we don't have to do the 100% best thing initially; your statement here is *at minimum* an extremely good starting place and is way better than how the *current* fediverse distribution works. We have the advantage that Datashards doesn't specify the routing algorithm and can compose with multiple approaches, so we can tweak that later.

@cjd @schmittlauch @lain @emacsen Another thing I'm really unsure of:

Should a node, once it has content that is "important" to it (eg, let's say my node containing this very post) continue to hold onto it and respond to queries asking for content?

On the one hand, this helps important content survive. On the other hand, it helps reveal who has the content.

I wonder if we can make progress on this without going full-freenet ;)

@cjd @schmittlauch @lain @emacsen Also, there are two things that can be gossiped:
- who has the content
- the content

presumably we'd do the former, but occasionally as part of the system "grab" bits of interesting stuff?

@gargron @zatnosk @jeroenpraat Me too.

#APConf also did a good job of making me "feel time passing"

I was relaying an example about how we have to be careful about how not to panic after a bad event, because we might take actions because "we have to do something" but which have effects that are hard to undo. I borrowed an analogy @emacsen had provided me with the passing of the Patriot Act after 9/11, and then I realized that most of the people I was talking to either were too young to remember that or weren't alive (!!) for it