@sten0_SE @strypey I'd rather we finally learn, as humanity, that perhaps we could do this without the bloodshed and suffering.

But yeah, idealist-turning-cynic here.

@sten0_SE @strypey ah, the pain is definitely going to happen, and probably soon. The fun part is that the part of the left that kept saying "voting is bull, democracy is dead" is still partially guilty of bringing this self-fulfilling prophecy on us all.

"Hey, the system doesn't work well; let's completely disengage and hope for the best, what could possibly go wrong."

@strypey "Best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The next best time is *now*"

via @OCCRP (since it seems to be blocked on mastodon.social):

U.S. Company Staff Involved in #Prostitution and Alcohol #Smuggling in Iraq https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/6410-u-s-company-staff-involved-in-prostitution-and-alcohol-smuggling-in-iraq

@aral @guizzy @Gargron on the other hand, expanding the scope too much will lead to feature creep and software that stops being usable in any particular use-case. Look at RetroShare for an example.

It's a trade-off, and not an easy decision.

@xor I agree with all of this, but just to stir up hornets' nest a bit:

1. how about: "if you're not paying for it, there's a good chance you're the product"

2. we really have to start making #FLOSS users understand they *need* to support the software they're using financially even if there is no upfront price tag.

@schestowitz awww, Lennart can't handle criticism of his own uninformed remarks: "poettering locked and limited conversation to collaborators 3 hours ago"

Ah, @forteller is here! Exquisite.

Okay, apparently I now have more followers than people I follow. Need to fix this right now.

Suggestions whom to follow very welcome. :)

@piersb but the real beauty here is that there are hundreds of #GNUSocial / #StatusNet instances that #Mastodon already can federate with. We are many.

Remember when #Twitter had #RSS / #Atom feeds for all users? Wasn't that great? Well, #Mastodon and any other #Fediverse server has that too. And it's here to stay, since the protocol is based on this.

Here's mine, for example: https://mastodon.social/users/rysiek.atom

Now you can use your favorite RSS reader to read my toots. I know, right?

#KeepCalmAndFederate

@mattcropp YES

@micahflee @mcscx @quincy @lambadalambda or, to put it differently, I do not thing Ello could make such a return, ever. Not because it didn't have the shiny UI, but precisely because it had nothing but (still centralized, proprietary, etc).

@micahflee @mcscx @quincy @lambadalambda no doubt about it. my point is: FLOSS, federated services seem to have a way of surviving a phase of "normal people" losing interest to resurface later.

On the other hand, FLOSS, federated services need *content* to bring in more users and break the #WalledGardens monolopy. That's why the current #Mastodon run is important to me.

@q3k well give it time. at least here you have a chance to have a properly decentralized thing. also, consider following people from quitter.se and otehr #GNUSocial servers. There's a fair bunch of people there, and they've been there for years.

@sonya @kodo there's no easy fix for that - traffic grows exponentially with number of users and instances, if all federated with all by default, it would be unmanageable. That's where p2p networks are better - but also so much harder to do (look at #Twister ) #KeepCalmAndFederate