@clacke I liked the Lethal Weapon and Die Hard movies, but I have never had the slightest desire to see Fight Club, not even to understand cultural references.
@lxo Okay, so then you'd rather hear someone "color the truth" with his grudges, as long as they are anti-American grudges. That is much more desirable to you than actual history and facts, even if your chosen viewpoint indirectly supports invaders and hurts victims.
I get it now, and I hope your "blame the victims and those that help them" attitude does not harm the free software movement, but I cannot see how it wouldn't.
At the same time, I'm trying to get him interested in Weather Gurl Dani'i's daily video, because she got interested in meteorology when she was still in high school.
We're still tracking former #Typhoon Mawar, currently a tropical storm. #TropStorm Mawar made a turn to the North, with its edge passing near Taiwan.
It's hard to keep up. I'll see something and when we talk during our videochats, #GS3 will have some information I did not know about. At four years old.
(I can see why his other grandpa wouldn't watch the weather with him, but that's really not the solution. He's four years old. In a few months to a year, he may find something else that interests him. In the meantime, let him learn what he wants to learn.)
> when it replaced a democratic Ukrainian government that defended neutrality with one that was friendly to the US
See, there's your propaganda showing.
Look at the history of US-sponsored coups and you'll see military and political leaders seizing power. Now look at the Orange Revolution and Euromaidan and you'll see the people assembling en masse and demanding that the government listen. That is not the US government at work. That is the people in the country voicing their opinion.
If you know as much as you claim to know about the ways the US operates, you would know that.
I would point out that neither of the leaders who were replaced in these events was "defending neutrality" by the news media of the time, but were trying to move closer to Russia's orbit. Which would have been quite okay, except that the nation as a whole objected strenuously. Twice. (And again, you would nullify the voice of the people of that country because you believe the propaganda that the evil US has manipulated things to cause this war.)
Then you say to watch a 93 minutes long video by some political scientist with a grudge, as though he's going to reveal something convincing to people who don't already believe the message that "the US is the source of all the world's evil".
Do you have something by someone credible, or is this guy the star witness?
@lxo Are not the Ukranians entitled to determine their own path? Even if their choice is not the choice you and wsws would make for them? Because that is the real issue.
They chose to try to integrate into Europe, and your extremist groups wish them to submit to Russia's domination once more. Your chosen political organizations support the aggressor while pretending to be fair and neutral, and refuse a whole nation including its laborers the right to decide its own national path.
These groups should publish a list of nations they would condemn to servitude or extermination, so people can know what to expect when world events occur.
@lxo This is where your politics cause delusions. There was no diplomatic effort that could have prevented this part of the war. It was give up your country piece by piece, or we'll invade. They had already tried the piece by piece thing in 2014, so the knew this was a fight for national survival.
Your delusion is that the US did this to Ukraine. This is Vladimir Putin's sole doing and he could have called it off at any time.
@clacke Is that the thing where a not funny episode goes on forever, only to be followed by another unfunny episode? Because that seems to happen at the laundromat every week.
By the time we had to do that with 2nd son, they were somewhat more responsive, but there were also a number of alternatives that put students outside the district's control. With 1st son, the only alternatives were private schools, the district's continuation school, a transfer outside the district (very difficult to get, as schools get paid for attendance), or the county's jailbird school for juvenile hall inmates.
I stopped seeing reports about her in the local paper, and also stopped seeing her at the store, so I assume Cindy moved away.
We sort of altered that deal in the 1960s through 1990s, when industry after industry started to send their production facilities overseas. So then we pushed students to educate longer, so they'd qualify for the kinds of jobs that remained.
Now, many of those higher-skill jobs are either downsized away, exported overseas, or have far more candidates than there are openings, and we're trying to put younger teens and even pre-teens back into the workforce ... primarily because the low-skill, low-wage jobs refuse to raise their pay scales and benefits enough to attract adults.
> what makes you think having a part time job means you aren't going to finish school? from my experience those who worked as teens are much more productive to the market
Maybe observation? Didn't you read what I posted above?
They're only "part-time jobs" because the state prevents them from becoming full-time jobs. If the state allows them to work full-time, once they're hired, the manager will pressure them to work full-time ... even if that means quitting school.
Employers looking for low-wage, low-skill employees often seek out high schoolers, because many of them are desperate for funds that their families cannot provide.
When I was in college, I worked in fast food. I got to see kids too young to legally work somehow working and doing tasks that were illegal for under-18s. I also knew and worked with some home schooled students ... who were by far the best workers for their age. The underage work permits were required to be posted on the office wall, and I don't ever recall seeing one with the public school stamp for a home schooled worker.
I also saw the kids who worked to pay for gym and lab supplies that their parents could not afford. Frequently, the manager would schedule them for trainee hours and then call them in every day, including for shifts outside their legal working hours.
So I'm not talking about theory. I'm talking about things I physically observed.
You know, one family we knew was home schooling. They found out about a program for advanced students that enabled them to put their three kids into community college and have those classes count for both high school / middle school credit and for college credit. So their kids (11-14 years old) attended the local college at a discounted rate (most of it was paid by state education funds) until the law changed to require that only a certain proportion of any particulars school's students could participate in that program.
The father, as school principal, downloaded a template and printed out diplomas for them. I think the youngest was 12 by that time. So at those ages, they were full-time college students and high school graduates.
(They also worked part time in the dad's business, but same-family businesses have always been exempt from a lot of the restrictions that apply to outside businesses.)
The point being, as school principal, there are a lot of things that dad could do without consulting the local school district.
> I have heard in fascist California we would have actually had to register as a private school and the State would have authority to review what are kids are being taught a d if they meet government "standards" more-or-less whenever they want.
Nope. Someone told you falsely.
It used to be that home schoolers had to register as a school AND their dwelling had to be inspected to pass school building safety standards (the same standards that many public school buildings don't meet because they predate the standards). But that's been gone for many years. We knew many home schoolers when my younger two were in school (they both graduated in 2007) ... prior to that graduation, that restriction was removed.
As for content restrictions, I don't know. When 2nd son had to do home schooling for medical reasons, no one had the time to do a full curriculum, so we signed him up for a school district sponsored home schooling program through the continuation school.
One of my sisters home schooled her kids, but they used a church-based curriculum and joined a home schooling group that hired part-time teachers (science and math for sure, I don't know about other subjects) to supplement the parents' knowledge.
@fu @lnxw48a1 I think what we are seeing play out is what George Carlin was talking about...
>Governments donβt want well informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. That is against their interests. >They want obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept it. β George Carlin
@fu The idea is that your teen probably needs to successfully finish school, so she isn't still doing that same low-wage, no-benefits job thirty years from now. And yes, that does happen.
What these pollies are trying to do is give companies compliant and helpless workers, so they don't have to raise pay and benefits enough to attract currently unwilling adults.
Even in SoCal, I knew a girl who quit high school because $FAST_FOOD_PLACE promised to make her a manager with a sizable raise. A year or so later, after the promotion and raise hadn't come, she changed to another FFP employer ... according to someone from the old neighborhood, she wound up perishing in a suspicious single-vehicle crash a few years later.
That said, if you and your spouse are home schooling your kids, one of you should be the relevant school principal. City Prep's principal has no record of how well students from outside that school are doing.