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@fu The idea is that your teen probably needs to successfully finish school, so she isn't still doing that same low-wage, no-benefits job thirty years from now. And yes, that does happen.
What these pollies are trying to do is give companies compliant and helpless workers, so they don't have to raise pay and benefits enough to attract currently unwilling adults.
Even in SoCal, I knew a girl who quit high school because $FAST_FOOD_PLACE promised to make her a manager with a sizable raise. A year or so later, after the promotion and raise hadn't come, she changed to another FFP employer ... according to someone from the old neighborhood, she wound up perishing in a suspicious single-vehicle crash a few years later.
That said, if you and your spouse are home schooling your kids, one of you should be the relevant school principal. City Prep's principal has no record of how well students from outside that school are doing.
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@fu @lnxw48a1
I think what we are seeing play out is what George Carlin was talking about...
>Governments don’t want well informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. That is against their interests.
>They want obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept it.
– George Carlin
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@fu @gnu2 @geniusmusing
> I have heard in fascist California we would have actually had to register as a private school and the State would have authority to review what are kids are being taught a d if they meet government "standards" more-or-less whenever they want.
Nope. Someone told you falsely.
It used to be that home schoolers had to register as a school AND their dwelling had to be inspected to pass school building safety standards (the same standards that many public school buildings don't meet because they predate the standards). But that's been gone for many years. We knew many home schoolers when my younger two were in school (they both graduated in 2007) ... prior to that graduation, that restriction was removed.
As for content restrictions, I don't know. When 2nd son had to do home schooling for medical reasons, no one had the time to do a full curriculum, so we signed him up for a school district sponsored home schooling program through the continuation school.
One of my sisters home schooled her kids, but they used a church-based curriculum and joined a home schooling group that hired part-time teachers (science and math for sure, I don't know about other subjects) to supplement the parents' knowledge.
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@gnu2 @fu @geniusmusing
> I don't think that's how state laws work.
You know, one family we knew was home schooling. They found out about a program for advanced students that enabled them to put their three kids into community college and have those classes count for both high school / middle school credit and for college credit. So their kids (11-14 years old) attended the local college at a discounted rate (most of it was paid by state education funds) until the law changed to require that only a certain proportion of any particulars school's students could participate in that program.
The father, as school principal, downloaded a template and printed out diplomas for them. I think the youngest was 12 by that time. So at those ages, they were full-time college students and high school graduates.
(They also worked part time in the dad's business, but same-family businesses have always been exempt from a lot of the restrictions that apply to outside businesses.)
The point being, as school principal, there are a lot of things that dad could do without consulting the local school district.
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@gnu2 @fu @geniusmusing
> what makes you think having a part time job means you aren't going to finish school? from my experience those who worked as teens are much more productive to the market
Maybe observation? Didn't you read what I posted above?
They're only "part-time jobs" because the state prevents them from becoming full-time jobs. If the state allows them to work full-time, once they're hired, the manager will pressure them to work full-time ... even if that means quitting school.
Employers looking for low-wage, low-skill employees often seek out high schoolers, because many of them are desperate for funds that their families cannot provide.
When I was in college, I worked in fast food. I got to see kids too young to legally work somehow working and doing tasks that were illegal for under-18s. I also knew and worked with some home schooled students ... who were by far the best workers for their age. The underage work permits were required to be posted on the office wall, and I don't ever recall seeing one with the public school stamp for a home schooled worker.
I also saw the kids who worked to pay for gym and lab supplies that their parents could not afford. Frequently, the manager would schedule them for trainee hours and then call them in every day, including for shifts outside their legal working hours.
So I'm not talking about theory. I'm talking about things I physically observed.
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