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1. Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Mar-2015 00:23:53 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

   • Open Source Playground
   Wendy thinks !NEF or some part of it should move from non-profit to for-profit. I don't see how one runs a media site without ads and without crowdfunding. Crowdfunding could work but the things I have tried in the past have been dismal failures. I don't see how we get investors and stick to CC. Thoughts?
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Mar-2015 00:24:58 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

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     • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
     • mv
     @lnxw48 @mv the obvious thing to break out would be sportazine. It's got all sorts of baggage I'm not sure I can clean up anyway.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Mar-2015 00:25:52 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

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     • Alex O'Brien
     @lrockhq figured I'd bring you into this too since I don't think you look at it otherwise.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Mar-2015 00:28:00 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

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     • Alex O'Brien
     I have been thinking for some time about cutting loses with Sportazine.com and moving domains to something like what @lrockhq suggested. That's a lot of facebook followers to give up though. If there appeared to be a real market for sports in the free culture world, I wouldn't worry about facebook, but while people talk about it, not very many people are very interested in curating it.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Mar-2015 00:32:00 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

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     it's so infuriating that Tom and Ryno refuse to use the fediverse.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Mar-2015 00:54:51 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
     • Alex O'Brien
     I'm not referring to a GNU Social conversation specifically. @lrockhq still messages me on twitter by default for some reason
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Mar-2015 01:30:50 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
     Leo is very much ad-supported. That can work, but people here seem to hate ads. I don't know if there are reputable ad companies.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Mar-2015 02:39:17 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
     @lnxw48 do you remember why adbard died? Did it die because identit.ca stopped using it?
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Mar-2015 02:47:41 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

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     The thing I can't wrap my head around is how is sportazine different than any number of sites if not about free culture? How do we approach an investor? I could get VC money for a tech project if I had one, but I don't know where to go for sports/media.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Mar-2015 02:49:03 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
     @lnxw48 oh I hadn't remembered going back to google. Interesting.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Mar-2015 14:38:01 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • mv
     well, that was always the plan, but the problem with the 501(c)(3) status is we can't get investors in the traditional sense of that word. I had (before Wendy's suggestion) been thinking about 501(c)(6) status, which would give us freedom to take strong political stances. The problem is no tax deduction for donors, which means you pretty much have to have some sort of donor tiers like the Linux Foundation has. It's possible we could refrain from that if we could get strong support from CC and FSF. The only problem with FSF endorsement is I don't want musicians thinking they have to use only free software. It'd be easy enough for everything we do to be outwardly free software...although talking Tom away from Blogger will be difficult, though possibly not impossible. We could always keep that instance as a legacy instance and not import stuff.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Mar-2015 20:02:25 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
     @lnxw48 what would it cost you in time/money to move sportazine.com away from Jeff's hosting, assuming I want to and am able to wrestle it away from him. It'd be great to have it in the hands of someone that actually gives a shit.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Mar-2015 20:42:33 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
     it's his. the whole deal when it started was he provided the site and I provided the content, but he's not going to do anything with the domain if I leave so as long as it is costing him nothing I don't see why he wouldn't. We could still pretty easily keep the "azine" network links at the bottom for some duration as payment for relinquishing the domain. Lots of options with the "azine" network side of things.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Sunday, 29-Mar-2015 00:25:25 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
     well, that's part of my question. There's obviously the domain name, but aside from that, would there be additional hosting costs or would it tuck in to a current setup?
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Sunday, 29-Mar-2015 00:33:43 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • Marcio B. Jr.
     @mbjunior you think free culture licensing is worthless?
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Monday, 30-Mar-2015 20:10:04 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • mv
     @mv are you still interested in putting together a stream? Tom has finally come around on the idea. I'm trying to figure out how we do it. Did you think all the shows the labor folks would be doing would be free culture released? Even though Music Manumit talks about proprietary software and non-free music, the show itself is CC BY-SA, so maybe we don't need to change anything.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Monday, 30-Mar-2015 22:47:59 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

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     • Free Culture
     • ccmusic
     I'm not entirely sure if this still all needs to be in the same thread, but since NEF only does free culture, and the thread hadn't been sent to !freeculture, I guess this is the opportunity.
     
     Anyway, I'd be curious if people would be interested in a free culture stream similar to the one at http://rynothebearded.com. His is all !ccmusic. This one would be all free culture or potentially all remixable (I'm not entirely sure how we are to deal with the Music Manumit closing tracks, which are some times -NC...theoretically we could change that, but it might be a hard sell to Tom).
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Mar-2015 14:32:37 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • mv
     "ASAP". My thought is either Tom does Music Manumit by himself or Mos Emvy (long story here) replaces me. I'd manage the stream. Maybe we wait until after I get to Cincinnati just so it's not still new while I am moving.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Mar-2015 14:40:04 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • mv
     exact date TBD, but June 15th is the day we are looking to start our new lease. The exact date will almost certainly be in late June
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Mar-2015 23:33:31 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • Alex O'Brien
     sportlibre.com or some variation thereof. :)
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Apr-2015 16:10:45 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • Alex O'Brien
     the scope of control had been the free culture licenses and the 501(c)(3) statutes, but we don't have anything formalized under a new status because we haven't decided what that will be.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Apr-2015 16:13:14 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • Alex O'Brien
     Tom and I have at least two big things (maybe 3) coming for Music Manumit, and we might be doing another Free Culture Sports Show crowdfunding campaign in May, so I think probably I need to get through all of that before we get too serious with moving NEF forward. Which I suppose means things are busy as usual for now.