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1. Rysiekúr Memesson (rysiek@mastodon.technology)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 06:36:25 UTC Rysiekúr Memesson

   Can we please get rid of daylight savings time? Please?

   Sincerely,
   everyone.

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   • Gamayun 🖤 (gamayun@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 07:24:23 UTC Gamayun 🖤

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     @rysiek
     Can we get metric time as well? :blobaww:
     *ducks*

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   • Sebastian Lasse (sl007@digitalcourage.social)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 07:30:43 UTC Sebastian Lasse

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     @rysiek

     I mean in 2019 the European Parliament voted by 410 to 192 in favor …

     Did it just happen for proving the EU is able to vote?

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 07:30:43 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Sebastian Lasse
     @sl007 @rysiek The EU agrees on stopping it, they're just stuck on the details of exactly how to stop it.
     
     Instead of just discontinuing the practice, they mixed it up with the timezone question and then it got stuck in indecision hell.
     
     They could have just decided to stop DST and then any countries who want to move their timezine one hour east could have done that as a separate matter.
   • tomasino (tomasino@tilde.zone)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 08:39:31 UTC tomasino

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     @rysiek really at this point i'm curious who is actually arguing for it? Aren't we at a point by now where people can just... you know... NOT change their clocks?

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   • Arya K :archlinux: :emacs: (aryak@mstdn.social)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 08:42:23 UTC Arya K :archlinux: :emacs:

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     @rysiek What is Daylight Saving Times
     :: Laughs at americans who have it ::

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   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 08:42:37 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Arya K :archlinux: :emacs:
     @rysiek @aryak Americans are indeed a subset of those who have it, so feel free to laugh at them. Then you can also laugh at a whole bunch of other people like all (?) EU people, most (?) Russians and most Australians.
   • Rysiekúr Memesson (rysiek@mastodon.technology)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 08:42:38 UTC Rysiekúr Memesson

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     • Arya K :archlinux: :emacs:

     @aryak I think you're making some assumptions that do not hold

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 08:44:46 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • webbie
     @wmd @rysiek It presents actual serious inconveniences to have the date change during office hours.
   • Rysiekúr Memesson (rysiek@mastodon.technology)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 08:44:52 UTC Rysiekúr Memesson

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     • webbie

     @wmd no.

   • webbie (wmd@chaos.social)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 08:44:52 UTC webbie

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     @rysiek aw, why not?

   • webbie (wmd@chaos.social)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 08:44:53 UTC webbie

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     @rysiek
     Can we also get rid of timezones?

   • heluecht (heluecht@pirati.ca)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 08:45:00 UTC heluecht

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     • heluecht
     • hypolite
     • webbie
     @hypolite @wmd @rysiek Well, having a weekday change in the middle of the day sounds quite confusing, doesn't it? People think in weekdays. When make an appointment you will most likely say: "On Wednesday I will be in your town, can we met?". But which Wednesday will this be when the day switch was around lunch time for example?
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   • Rysiekúr Memesson (rysiek@mastodon.technology)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 08:45:01 UTC Rysiekúr Memesson

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     • heluecht
     • hypolite
     • webbie

     @hypolite @heluecht @wmd I find it pretty useful to know that lunchtime around the world is roughly 12:00-13:00. That morning ends around 12:00, and that 19:00 is considered evening.

     Keeping track of this if there were no time zones would be an exercise in pure frustration. No thanks.

   • webbie (wmd@chaos.social)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 08:45:01 UTC webbie

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     • heluecht
     • hypolite

     @rysiek @hypolite @heluecht

     Except those assumptions are wrong. I've seen lunchtime from 13.00 or later, and certainly lasting longer. And what means is also quite different across the globe.

     And should we really stick to these concepts of only eating/breaking/working at set times?

   • hypolite (hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 08:45:02 UTC hypolite

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     • heluecht
     • webbie
     @heluecht @wmd @rysiek They currently exist for the sole reason of having Tea Time be 5 o’clock anywhere on the globe and as a result they add complexity to time and space management.
     
     In practice it wouldn’t matter whether you go to work at 10, 19 or 4 o’clock.
   • heluecht (heluecht@pirati.ca)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 08:45:03 UTC heluecht

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     • webbie
     @wmd @rysiek What would be the benefit?
   • Rysiekúr Memesson (rysiek@mastodon.technology)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 08:47:15 UTC Rysiekúr Memesson

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     • heluecht
     • hypolite
     • webbie

     @hypolite @heluecht @wmd oh, 24h time format for the win. AM/PM is bull.

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   • hypolite (hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 08:47:16 UTC hypolite

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     • heluecht
     • hypolite
     • webbie
     @heluecht @wmd @rysiek "Your package will arrive on Friday" is one the most unactionable piece of information you can get about a package, and as such I don't believe we should organize the global time structure around it.
     
     Besides, I'm getting more precise delivery estimates from the USPS, like this: "March 14th between 9:45am and 1:45pm". Please note how the times aren't even visually contiguous inside the same day with the 12-hour notation, so there could be a date change in the middle of the day and it wouldn't change much to this particular estimate string.
   • heluecht (heluecht@pirati.ca)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 08:47:17 UTC heluecht

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     • heluecht
     • hypolite
     • webbie
     @hypolite @wmd @rysiek Well, it would be kind of unpractical to have a date shift in the middle of the day. So some "your package will arrive on Friday" could then mean some period between early evening and late morning, for example. That's disturbing.
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 10:15:39 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • webbie
     @wmd @rysiek That's sounds like an elaborate way to make it even less practical.
   • webbie (wmd@chaos.social)'s status on Monday, 14-Mar-2022 10:15:40 UTC webbie

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     • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

     @clacke @rysiek like what?

     I would have it cycle, so when the day changes for you changes over time. You can do that nicely by taking a proper/neat fraction of year

   • Stoori Raisiolainen (stoori@polyglot.city)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Mar-2022 07:18:55 UTC Stoori Raisiolainen

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     • Mina

     @meena @rysiek ah, here's more about it https://www.timeanddate.com/time/europe/eu-dst.html

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   • Stoori Raisiolainen (stoori@polyglot.city)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Mar-2022 07:18:56 UTC Stoori Raisiolainen

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     • Mina

     @meena @rysiek if i remember correctly, some eu organ has already approved of getting rid of dst, and the current procedural step is to wait what national parlaments say about it, but this has stalled because national parlaments have been busy with covid stuff and such, and the issue is not high on current eu chair's agenda. so we'll just have to wait and see.

   • Rysiekúr Memesson (rysiek@mastodon.technology)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Mar-2022 07:18:57 UTC Rysiekúr Memesson

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     Holy cow:
     https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-that-would-make-daylight-savings-time-permanent-2023-2022-03-15/

     > U.S. Senate approves bill that would make Daylight Savings Time permanent in 2023

     > The U.S. Senate voted unanimously on Tuesday to make Daylight Savings Time permanent, a move supporters say would make winter afternoons brighter and end the twice changing of clocks.

     I had no clue I have such power.

   • Mina (meena@cathode.church)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Mar-2022 07:18:57 UTC Mina

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     @rysiek how big is the chance EU will do this anytime soon?

   • webbie (wmd@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 18-Mar-2022 12:28:28 UTC webbie

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     • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

     @clacke @rysiek

     https://xkcd.com/2594/

     Can also go for this :)

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