@clacke @loke @amberage
I found an online converter that can convert back and forth between dew point and rel hunidity for a given air temperature.
It also tells you the vapor preasure and absolute humidity.

https://www.calculator.net/dew-point-calculator.html

@loke @clacke @amberage over here:
24°C with 15°C dew point: nice and warm
24°C witg 20°C dew point: damn why is this air so heavy I just want to lay down and conserve energy

@loke @clacke @amberage that'd mean dew point is equal to air temperatyre at all times

@clacke @amberage i think dew point also matters

@marcan @drewdevault @sxpert
You know it, and take care of it, but if an average developer goes like "oh, marcan's project installs through curl|sh so I'll make mine install through curl|sh too" how will they know to include such protections?

What's the chance that in 5 years we'll be running Drew's Helios and not needing to reboot for kernel updates anymore?

I could've found an out-of-spec header they're sending and block based on that, and it would've worked until they figured that out too.

I could've made my own captcha / proof-of-work authentication thing, that'd probably work (unless the bot can run JS).

Or I could use CloudFlare which appears to do all of the above for me, with economies of scale, and experience greater than I have.

Or I could've accepted the downtime.

What would y'all have done?

2/2

btw. yes this happened, at previous job we got hit with an application-level DDoS of low bandwidth and around 1000 req/s which was 100x more than normal traffic and overwhelmed our shitty Django webapp.

Banning IPs / rate limiting didn't help because they kept coming with new ones. I'd somehow need to know the list of IPs ahead of time.

Caching would probably work until they figured out that the session cookie (ppl can log in) must be part of the cache key.

1/

@sjb well the DNS record needs to point somewhere...

@sjb ok supposedly it works with modern browsers https://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/10927/using-multiple-a-records-for-my-domain-do-web-browsers-ever-try-more-than-one

@sjb kinda sorta not really

(btw. the person I'm mocking is me)

when cloudflare is down:
"haha losers that's what you get for using a centralized MitM-as-a-service"

when getting DDoSed:
"help! cloudflare pls save me from the bad guys"

@lrvick what do you plan to do with such power?

@cjd @2big2fail
why is it always executive orders that are most evil

@ddevault nice video!

By the way, have you considered coming up with some convention on keeping the default mailing list address in the repo (as opposed to in .git/config) ? I know for large projects it's not that simple, since there are multiple mailing lists and you have to choose the right one, but I think for small projects it would be enough and would make contributing much easier if both git.sr.ht and git-send-email supported it.

@michiel @cjd I think IETF would not allow an internet standard with a single implementation, and I don't think they're capable of iterating at such breakneck speed as WHATWG

@michiel @cjd damn, I forgot about WebRTC

@fribbledom I think you overestimate how well organized a median FOSS project is.

@BalooUriza @fribbledom
counterpoint: at $dayjob, we (SRE team) rely on people asking multiple times if they still care about something. If we end up not doing it immediately, and a few weeks pass since the initial request without anyone asking again, we will assume it's no longer needed.