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1. solariiknight(ஆனந்த்) (solariiknight@social.systemreboot.net)'s status on Friday, 29-Jul-2016 12:58:28 UTC solariiknight(ஆனந்த்)
   I didn't know that duckduckgo.com was working with yahoo to get search results. I thought that they had their own unique search engine! Apparently duckduckgo uses yahoo's engine to provide search results, while maintaining privacy. Both DDG & yahoo claim to not use information to identify users.
   https://duck.co/help/company/yahoo-partnership
   #duckduckgo #yahoo
   Hmm...
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   • Bob Mottram (bob@primatemind.info)'s status on Friday, 29-Jul-2016 13:12:36 UTC Bob Mottram

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     @solariiknight DDG is a metasearch engine. So it uses other search engines and systems to gather the results, including from places like Microsoft Bing.
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   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 29-Jul-2016 13:45:28 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     @solariiknight From what I remember, #duckduckgo uses many search engines, specialized and generic, and put the results together.
   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 29-Jul-2016 13:46:23 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     @solariiknight I believe #duckduckgo has been using both #bing and #google, possibly at the same time, in its past. I think they crawl too.
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Friday, 29-Jul-2016 13:49:46 UTC Temporary Marjolein

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     They've used Bing and Yandex before. My understanding was they just use the database, while the engine that uses it is their own.
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   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Friday, 29-Jul-2016 17:10:37 UTC MMN-o ✅⃠

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     • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
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     @solariiknight @mk @clacke Yahoo! search _is_ Bing nowadays, isn't it? http://searchengineland.com/microsoft-yahoo-search-deal-simplified-23299 http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/10/technology/yahoo-microsoft/index.html
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   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 01-Aug-2016 06:28:20 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     @mmn @mk @solariiknight Right, I had forgotten about that, or mixed it up. That prompts the question what #duckduckgo is really getting.
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Monday, 01-Aug-2016 13:57:44 UTC Temporary Marjolein

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     • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
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     @mmn @clacke @solariiknight No, not exactly. Yahoo! is not Bing, Yahoo! uses "technology" from Bing. And Bing can use Yahoo! "technology". But all this talk of "technology" is too vague. A "search engine" is many parts together, and a search engine "powered by" (parts of) another is nothing new (remember Excite? or AltaVista?). Possible "parts" are: gathering (which itself is two parts: discovery - finding new documents to investigate - and indexing - analysing documents and providing data for the database); then there's the database itself, specifically, what (meta)data is stored, and what indexes there are to that stored data. 1/2
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     • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
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     @mmn @clacke @solariiknight Then there is querying: the part that takes a user query and tries to find content from the database that is relevant for that query. Finally there is presentation: how those relevant results get presented (and first ordered, filtered or enriched). So if Yahoo! is using Bing "technology" which part or parts is it actualy using? (Search engines "powered by" another often had only the database - so they didn't do the gathering parts - but created their own queries and presentation.) Apparently Yahoo! still has and uses some of their own "technology" and now DuckDuckGo is using some of _that_ technology. Which means??? More vagueness that doesn't really mean much at all. More, and better, data needed! 2/2
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