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1. Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 13:55:48 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

   • ☆ starfrosch
   @starfrosch did you hear I am now part of http://blocsonic.com?
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 14:12:07 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • ccmusic
     • ☆ starfrosch
     there are 5 of us that are part-owners, and a 6th that is helping me with some of the legal stuff. I don't know if Mike has an idea now of who will be released under vinyl, CD, and tape. I am not sure of timing either, but hopefully no T-birds and the Breaks-style break-ups due to the fight over a label and !ccmusic. Now you can have both! (of course, this was actually true before blocSonic, but somehow people don't know this)
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 14:24:23 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • ☆ starfrosch
     tons of people that come on Music Manumit are members of #BMI or #ASCAP. I'm not sure why you think they are incompatible. Nine Inch Nails famously released under CC, for example.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 14:33:21 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • ☆ starfrosch
     yeah, Nine Inch Nails were on the cover of ASCAP magazine after releasing under CC.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 14:34:00 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • ☆ starfrosch
     http://www.ascap.com/press/2012/0323_popawards_trent-reznor.aspx
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 14:34:19 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • ☆ starfrosch
     The Slip came out in 2008
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 14:34:57 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • ☆ starfrosch
     Ghosts I-IV also came out in 2008
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 14:37:29 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • ☆ starfrosch
     so, I checked his licenses on the site and they are all only for NC.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 14:38:41 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • ☆ starfrosch
     Yeah, we did a show on collecting societies back in August.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 14:38:52 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • ☆ starfrosch
     on the Lawcast
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 14:41:12 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • Sakrecoer
     I trained as a copyright attorney. Trust me, ASCAP works with CC. That doesn't mean they are happy about it.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 14:41:55 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • ☆ starfrosch
     so, you are saying he is a member of one of those two?
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 14:46:18 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • Sakrecoer
     the Nine Inch Nails albums are all BY-NC-SA, FWIW. I'd have to go back and look at the details, but I think you can always exclude an album from revenue (which would allow for BY, BY-SA, BY-ND)
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 14:52:33 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • ☆ starfrosch
     I think right now we are only doing US distribution, but dealing with international issues is certainly on the to-do list. I'll put GEMA and SUISA on the list. There are a lot of ways we could deal with it. Some would be on the site and some would be via contract. All are messy, but that's the world we live in, unfortunately. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Unfortunately, he uses ND, so he is not eligible for Music Manumit to spend some time talking about it there.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 15:01:00 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • Sakrecoer
     most of the time, when ASCAP and BMI come up on the show, it is not a positive review, but I do know some people are like "I get checks, it's just not a lot" which I guess is more of a shrug than really a negative review.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 15:03:24 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • Sakrecoer
     here's the show where we discuss it: http://www.musicmanumit.com/2015/08/16-lawcast.html -- let me know if you end up needing more info.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 15:08:30 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • ☆ starfrosch
     which he?
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 15:09:15 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • Sakrecoer
     over on fragdev, we don't have 140 char. Not that way on loadaverage either. I'm sure there are more with a larger limit
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 15:22:17 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • ☆ starfrosch
     PRS is also a guitar company, so we just making sure that was the context
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 15:24:24 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • Sakrecoer
     first thing that came up in my search: http://www.ascap.com/about/join/membership-agreement.aspx
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 15:34:47 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • Sakrecoer
     I guess someone over there figured out they were dealing with musicians and not megacorps…or at least not all megacorps.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 16:21:29 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • Sakrecoer
     if you want to know more about US Antitrust law, speak with http://gurdonark.blogspot.com/ (he's on twitter, soundcloud, ccmixter, FMA, and presumably other places). We've had him on Music Manumit a couple of times. He's going to be back on in July.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 16:59:35 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • Sakrecoer
     no, they can't. It's possible anything released after their experiment is not CC BY-NC-SA. I did know STIM was Sweden. I don't speak Swedish, mostly because I didn't learn it when I visited and none of my family over here actually speaks it, but my mom's side of the family is Swedish. I'm a #MFF supporter, fwiw.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 17:01:00 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • Sakrecoer
     it's not like I follow religiously. They aren't exactly broadcasting a lot of games. I watched all their Champions League matches though, because I figure, who the hell knows when this might happen again.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 17:04:24 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     in reply to
     Did you see http://www.musicmanumit.com/2016/04/oo-ray-160403-music-manumit-podcast.html ? #diplodocus
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 17:06:17 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • Sakrecoer
     I think the STIM stuff will be interesting to people. We're booked up until late November anyway. Look over http://www.musicmanumit.com/p/interview-details.html and let me know what you think.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 17:12:18 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • Sakrecoer
     reminds me of when my brother and I were in South Africa for the World Cup. My brother was wearing a Mexico t-shirt (long story) and some dude start speaking to him in Spanish. He quickly says "no hablo Espanol". Which, of course, is true, but also a paradox. Anyway, the best part is, the dude start speaking English in a very US accent. Turns out he was from Brooklyn and just saw the Mexico shirt.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2016 17:58:11 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • Sakrecoer
     our interviews vary pretty wildly depending on who is on. Our most popular show ever was actually on the Lawcast, when we spook to CC Korea: http://www.musicmanumit.com/2012/07/5-discussion-with-creative-commons-korea.html -- the statement I posted there I think was just about the Lawcast. Not sure. The Cloudkicker interview was pretty popular too. I haven't looked at the stats in a long time though. I've been too busy with blocSonic and other stuff.
   • Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames (daw@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Apr-2016 01:59:52 UTC Moving (some day) To Federati...can no longer change usernames

     • Sakrecoer
     so, I decided to check, and it turns out http://www.musicmanumit.com/2013/04/the-ins-and-outs-of-copyright.html is super popular and so is http://www.musicmanumit.com/2010/12/music-manumit-music-only-podcast-guest.html (we don't do a music-only show any more because aside from this one, there isn't another one in the top 10)