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1. chjara (chjara@disqordia.space)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jun-2022 08:59:57 UTC chjara
   hm
   actually big-endian is probably better than little-endian
   short of evil aliasing tricks there's no computational advantage or disadvantage to either, but big-endian is more natural by virtue of human number systems being big-endian
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   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jun-2022 09:00:05 UTC Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @chjara Meanwhile me: I care so less about the endianness that I tend to say x86-endian and ppc-endian. Just write arch-agnostic code.
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   • (ΦωΦ) (meganeko@miaow.gay)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jun-2022 09:00:15 UTC (ΦωΦ)

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     @chjara I also dislike little or mixed endian date formats. a lot.

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   • (ΦωΦ) (meganeko@miaow.gay)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jun-2022 09:00:16 UTC (ΦωΦ)

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     @chjara pretty much what I've always thought ~

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jun-2022 10:33:30 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Koakuma
     Probably everyone in this thread agress, but obligatory reference: commandcenter.blogspot.com/201…
     """
     Whenever I see code that asks what the native byte order is, it's almost certain the code is either wrong or misguided.
     [ . . . ]
     What does matter is the byte order of a peripheral or encoded data stream, but--and this is the key point--the byte order of the computer doing the processing is irrelevant to the processing of the data itself.
     """
     @lanodan @koakuma @chjara
   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jun-2022 10:33:31 UTC Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Koakuma
     @koakuma @chjara Well… I tend to put stuff in network-endian by default.
   • Koakuma (koakuma@uwu.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jun-2022 10:33:32 UTC Koakuma

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     @lanodan @chjara And then you need to exchange data between the two systems and the encoding happens to use the native endianness and... :02lurk:

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jun-2022 10:37:32 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Koakuma
     @koakuma Once a value is in your memory it is a value, not bytes.
     
     @lanodan @chjara
   • Koakuma (koakuma@uwu.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jun-2022 10:37:33 UTC Koakuma

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     @clacke @lanodan @chjara And the way he does it is also misguided; the language should provide numerical types with explicit endianness tags instead of having to remember to shift-shift before parsing or whatever :02smile:

   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jun-2022 10:39:06 UTC Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Koakuma
     @koakuma @clacke @chjara be32enc and similar kind of functions exists in the libc.
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   • a1ba-nyan (a1ba@expired.mentality.rip)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jun-2022 10:43:10 UTC a1ba-nyan

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     • Koakuma
     @clacke @chjara @lanodan @koakuma nooo
     
     But then I can't cast the buffer to a C struct :D
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   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jun-2022 11:33:19 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Koakuma
     @a1ba Friends who had friends who let them write C.
     
     @lanodan @koakuma @chjara
   • a1ba-nyan (a1ba@expired.mentality.rip)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jun-2022 11:33:21 UTC a1ba-nyan

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     • Koakuma
     @lanodan @chjara @clacke @koakuma that's what they always say: Well, I'm not gonna write that stupid code. My own code is platform-agnostic
     
     And yet it's not the first time we're seeing it, right? If I don't write that, and you don't, or anybody mentioned here doesn't, then who does?
   • a1ba-nyan (a1ba@expired.mentality.rip)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jun-2022 11:33:22 UTC a1ba-nyan

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     • Koakuma
     @lanodan @chjara @clacke @koakuma but why if I'm lazy or inexperienced programmer and can do:
     
     ```
     header = (dheader_t *)buf;
     ver = header->version;
     // ... and so on
     ```
     
     (just stripped it from hlbsp loader)
   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jun-2022 11:33:23 UTC Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Koakuma
     @a1ba @chjara @clacke @koakuma Well… you can, just decode it first.
   • a1ba-nyan (a1ba@expired.mentality.rip)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jun-2022 11:38:19 UTC a1ba-nyan

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     • Koakuma
     @clacke @chjara @lanodan @koakuma that's some asshole friends
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   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jun-2022 11:39:47 UTC Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Koakuma
     @a1ba @chjara @clacke @koakuma Guess why I don't really trust other's people code by default.
     
     Sharing software is great, but it can easily be a greek gift.
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   • a1ba-nyan (a1ba@expired.mentality.rip)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jun-2022 11:39:48 UTC a1ba-nyan

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     • Koakuma
     @lanodan @chjara @clacke @koakuma
     
     Remember _we_ don't do that
     
     Somehow other people do :)
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     • Koakuma
     @a1ba @chjara @clacke @koakuma Well… it's C so you might as well be reading some garbage and get a segfault from just that.
     
     Never trust user input :)