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1. Erin Bee (erinbee@gorgon.city)'s status on Monday, 23-May-2022 04:57:56 UTC Erin Bee

   The question shouldn't be "Why would Picard order Earl Grey when other, better teas exist?" We should ask, why order replicator tea at all when it likely tastes like it was made with microwaved water? Jean-Luc, honey, just order a 24th century Monster energy drink and a bergamot aromatherapy patch and go on with your day.

   • Erin Bee (erinbee@gorgon.city)'s status on Monday, 23-May-2022 04:57:50 UTC Erin Bee

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     • Dr. Canageek

     @Canageek Also, I'm thinking about the scene in Picard where Rios goes wild for the peanut butter cookies because the real ones have something intangible the replicator can't capture.

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   • Erin Bee (erinbee@gorgon.city)'s status on Monday, 23-May-2022 04:57:51 UTC Erin Bee

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     @Canageek For some reason, lots of people find that microwaving water changes the taste and feeling of it. And with a replicator, you aren't getting the variables from brewing real tea, just a uniform flavour experience. So the flavour itself isn't what bothers me, it's that any hot beverage is probably going to have the flat, scorchy undertaste of being microwaved.

   • Erin Bee (erinbee@gorgon.city)'s status on Monday, 23-May-2022 04:57:52 UTC Erin Bee

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     • Dr. Canageek

     @Canageek That's a good point, too. I'm just more concerned about all tea tasting weird, but it could also be that people like what they're used to.

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   • Dr. Canageek (canageek@cybre.space)'s status on Monday, 23-May-2022 04:57:52 UTC Dr. Canageek

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     @erinbee Why do you think replicated tea would taste bad?

   • Dr. Canageek (canageek@cybre.space)'s status on Monday, 23-May-2022 04:57:53 UTC Dr. Canageek

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     @erinbee Could also be what he calls Early Grey in the 24th century isn't what we call Early Grey, there are a number of recipes that have changed over time like that, for example Red Velvet Cake

   • Dr. Canageek (canageek@cybre.space)'s status on Monday, 23-May-2022 04:57:54 UTC Dr. Canageek

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     @erinbee I haven't had those, but I've heard them called "Chemical tasting" by people who like it (Nile Red on youtube), could be he doesn't like that flavour?

   • Dr. Canageek (canageek@cybre.space)'s status on Monday, 23-May-2022 04:57:55 UTC Dr. Canageek

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     @erinbee It might be a bad idea for a man with a bad heart to drink Monster...

   • Erin Bee (erinbee@gorgon.city)'s status on Monday, 23-May-2022 04:57:55 UTC Erin Bee

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     • Dr. Canageek

     @Canageek There's caffeine in Earl Grey, though. Energy drink, quarter-stimulant, cold?

   • Dr. Canageek (canageek@cybre.space)'s status on Monday, 23-May-2022 04:58:07 UTC Dr. Canageek

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     @erinbee that is fair, though I wonder if that is simply "they use more butter then Star Fleet regulations allow and no one wants to admit it"

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   • Eldan Goldenberg (eldang@weirder.earth)'s status on Monday, 23-May-2022 05:39:06 UTC Eldan Goldenberg

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     @erinbee Cursed take.

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 23-May-2022 05:39:06 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Eldan Goldenberg
     @eldang @erinbee Here's cursed: Replicator tea is provided by the post-scarcity society. For a suspension of leaves from a bush you need gold-pressed latinum.
   • Erin Bee (erinbee@gorgon.city)'s status on Monday, 23-May-2022 05:55:15 UTC Erin Bee

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     • Eldan Goldenberg

     @clacke @eldang Not going to get into the politics of post scarcity and a class that still engages in trade and capital to get premium items, but presumably the replicator could make a tea bag and he could pop up to Ten Forward on his break to use something like a spirit lamp and brew it to his liking?

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   • Digital Mark λ 📚 🕹 💾 🥃 (mdhughes@appdot.net)'s status on Monday, 23-May-2022 07:05:02 UTC Digital Mark λ 📚 🕹 💾 🥃

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     • Eldan Goldenberg

     @erinbee @clacke @eldang I think they can't do things the easy way. They'd look at a tea kettle on a wood-burning stove, and go "good tea. nice house.", but couldn't manage it themselves.

     They'd have to get Geordi in there to build a warp heating still, a micro-transporter to infuse the leaves, some elaborate piping system to pour it in his tea cup, hydraulic platform in a plastic tube lowers the cup to reach height. NOW it's Star Trek.

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   • Erin Bee (erinbee@gorgon.city)'s status on Monday, 23-May-2022 07:05:20 UTC Erin Bee

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     • Eldan Goldenberg

     @mdhughes @clacke @eldang The Rube Goldberg tea maker is definitely Riker, Wesley Crusher, a pretty ensign trying to explain beverages and human emotions to Data, and Lwaxana Troi. A Klein Bottle held over a flame by an elegant twisted metal stand is Picard, Deanna Troi, and Worf. (Worf hates the pouring mechanism, orders it solely for the flame.)

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   • Digital Mark λ 📚 🕹 💾 🥃 (mdhughes@appdot.net)'s status on Monday, 23-May-2022 07:11:41 UTC Digital Mark λ 📚 🕹 💾 🥃

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     • Eldan Goldenberg

     @erinbee @clacke @eldang Worf might like flame, but I don't think any of them could produce it, without a complex gadget. TOS, sure, they had to build up from nothing several times, they understand stone knives & bearskins & fire. TNG? Nobody's made a fire in 120 years!

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   • Erin Bee (erinbee@gorgon.city)'s status on Tuesday, 24-May-2022 00:13:34 UTC Erin Bee

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     • Eldan Goldenberg

     @mdhughes @clacke @eldang Nah, Guinan has one of these and there's always someone astonished with it:

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   • zompus@toot.cat's status on Tuesday, 24-May-2022 01:36:24 UTC zompus

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     • Dr. Canageek

     @erinbee @Canageek My headcanon for replicated food is that it's always 100% identical each time you get it, so people who live on replicated food get taste bud fatigue even though they don't realize it. Kind of like eating in the same restaurant all the time. The moment you get to try a non-replicated version of that food it tastes SPECTACULAR.

     Also Picard probably likes bad tea. Winery aside he doesn't seem like much of a foodie.

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