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1. Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Thursday, 10-Mar-2022 12:09:22 UTC Strypey

   In theory, we can now bring billions of minds to bear on the complex problems we face. Yet we live in an age of digitally amplified polarization and disinformation (I hope we can all agree these are problems). How can we learn to disagree gracefully? How can we teach that? We urgently need to create shared understandings of media, and how to use them in service of wellbeing. Especially if McLuhan was right that WW3 is an information war.

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   • Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Thursday, 10-Mar-2022 12:09:16 UTC Strypey

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     • mmaxim

     @mmaxim
     > Remember school, where you had to write essays? Did you ever get to read a schoolmate's essay? I surely didn't.

     This is a great point. I was in some classes where we peer-reviewed each others' work. But I remember a lot of times when the assignment was to give a speech, but never an assignment that required listening to a classmate's speech and demonstrating active listening during and comprehension afterwards.

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   • mmaxim (mmaxim@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 10-Mar-2022 12:09:20 UTC mmaxim

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     @strypey
     I think the first step towards learning to disagree gracefully is to listen to each other. Remember school, where you had to write essays? Did you ever get to read a schoolmate's essay? I surely didn't. It was all about learning to express yourself, never to listen to or understanding other people...

   • Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Thursday, 10-Mar-2022 12:09:30 UTC Strypey

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     • hypolite

     @hypolite
     > By reducing economic inequality.

     I agree inequality is a serious and growing problem. But how do we reduce it without the means to achieve a broad consensus on the exact nature of the problem and what actions to take to fix it? I don't see how we can solve our economic or ecological problems without solving our media problem.

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   • hypolite (hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com)'s status on Thursday, 10-Mar-2022 12:09:31 UTC hypolite

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     @strypey By reducing economic inequality. Not everybody has the same stake in our society, and this leads to the existence of vastly different and irreconcilable social paradigms. Unfortunately no teaching is going to change that.
   • Cy (cy@mstdn.io)'s status on Thursday, 10-Mar-2022 12:11:53 UTC Cy

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     @strypey Lodges, mentors, apprenticeship, sewing circles, militias, unions, all systematically dismantled to make us placid, compliant workers. All we do is work, and raise children, and vanishingly few of us have any connections to anyone with the power to investigate something and find out the truth. The Internet should have saved us, but they've been sabatoging it since day one with bullshit and bullying, forcing us to be consumers, not people.

   • Cy (cy@mstdn.io)'s status on Thursday, 10-Mar-2022 12:11:53 UTC Cy

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     @strypey Not that we can't fight against them. But there are massively funded campaigns to keep us ignorant and alone, helpless to find solidarity, and you have to take that into account before you despair at people's apparent inability to learn to be decent. We can learn, we're just under a lot of fire right now, so it seems like we can't.

   • Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Thursday, 10-Mar-2022 12:11:53 UTC Strypey

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     • Cy

     @cy
     It goes without saying that there is active anti-democratic disinformation going on. This isn't new and arguably it's one side of the information war. What I'm curious about is whether anyone is aware of repeatable tactics for communicating productively *despite* this. Non-Violent Communication, for example.

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   • Cy (cy@mstdn.io)'s status on Thursday, 10-Mar-2022 12:11:54 UTC Cy

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     @strypey I think you might be overlooking the fact that people are forcing us to be ignorant, at pain of death in some cases. The "first world" has never been so ignorant and disconnected in this generation since at least the invention of the printing press. Who are we supposed to trust? Our pastor? They're the most corrupt of all! Our neighbor? Never met him. Too many cars to be safe out front. Our town council? They don't even know we exist!