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1. :bunny: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jul-2019 17:14:11 UTC :bunny:

   • Christine Lemmer-Webber
   • wilkie
   @wilkie @cwebber more signatures, more metadata leakage, continuation of the authentication as authorization regime
   • Christine Lemmer-Webber repeated this.
   • Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jul-2019 17:18:13 UTC Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     • wilkie

     @kaniini @wilkie And it isn't obvious to people why this is bad. At first glance, it *looks* good; for some things it's fine: we can block a Gab or two, but anyone can start a new instance. Eventually we endi up at fediverse nation-states with border patrol guards, or a whitelisting of instances, which quickly results in defederation. Other problems but I'd have to refer to the literature.

     A "network of consent" approach is the alternate option.

   • Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jul-2019 17:19:30 UTC Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     • wilkie

     @kaniini @wilkie On top of that, there are things the network will *no longer be able to do* that are exciting, cool futures if we go this route. Not only will the network degrade, we'll lose the opportunity to grow in ways that are very interesting, to be able to do the kind of rich interactions that aren't even possible on contemporary centralized social networks.