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1. Rysiekúr (old account) (rysiek@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 16-Apr-2018 16:15:00 UTC Rysiekúr (old account)

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   @alienghic @cwebber @Shamar @kaniini @starbreaker and this (as a licensing scheme) is 100% fine, because anyone has a clear choice -- either you go with GPL, or you pay.

   Notice there is nothing about "noncommercial" in the GPL.

   That's my point, NC is not necessary to achieve what people think it's needed for. And it's counter-productive and problematic in general.

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   • Sean O'Brien (diggity@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 16-Apr-2018 16:18:35 UTC Sean O'Brien

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     @rysiek @cwebber @Shamar @kaniini @starbreaker NC licensing is a problem for exactly this reason... it's a shaky legal foundation and it also doesn't port well internationally.

     CC's interpretation of NC is purposefully vague to be flexible: https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/NonCommercial_interpretation

     In my opinion, that doesn't make it very useful; NC is mostly a barrier to combining with other FOSS licenses, especially the big copyleft licenses.

     In some cases, artists and musicians feel more comfortable with CC licensing... 1/2

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   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 23-Apr-2018 10:55:56 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @diggity @rysiek @starbreaker @cwebber @shamar @kaniini
     
     You probably heard this, but for anyone reading this who didn't, it's too good an anecdote to leave out of this conversation.
     
     JSLint, the JavaScript syntax checker, is under the JSON License and therefore must not be used for evil. Except:
     
     > So I wrote back – this happened literally two weeks ago – “I give permission for IBM, its customers, partners, and minions, to use JSLint for evil.”
     
     http://web.archive.org/web/20130311201800/http://dev.hasenj.org/post/3272592502
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 23-Apr-2018 11:02:47 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @alienghic @rysiek @starbreaker @cwebber @shamar @kaniini "Copyfarleft", heh.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 23-Apr-2018 11:16:36 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Christine Lemmer-Webber
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     @shamar @rysiek @starbreaker @cwebber @diggity @alienghic @kaniini If you want to prevent yourself from the opportunity to take your project proprietary, make sure to get more contributors, and have everyone retain their copyright to their contributions.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 23-Apr-2018 15:59:34 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @shamar @rysiek @starbreaker @cwebber @diggity @alienghic @kaniini I'm not saying give away anything. I'm saying use copyleft, invite others to join, and don't ask them to give away anything either.
     
     Then, barring someone buying up the whole community, the project and all its derivatives is perpetually free software.