@ixs In that case, let's all enjoy the next fascist chapter in our history.

Sure, that must be a bit hyperbolic, but these guys are voting for fascists, because the fascists are making time for that shit.

@ixs Banning the parties doesn't ban the ideas though, and in the end a society wants happy productive members of society, instead of a large group that's acting against the interest of society.

Also, I do think society owes its people, just like people owe their society.

So, why not both ban the party, and give the voters a reason to stop being angry at society?

@Mabande @jmcs

Very much so, they need to see that their own feelings of being abandoned and betrayed comes from the same system that keeps women down, it just looks different.

Just a reminder that the extreme right is using toxic masculinity as a way to recruit young men.

While we can easily blame men for being toxic, I don't think it will fix much. We need to create a narrative that speaks to men that feel lost. One that's different than all the toxic shit that's so effective on these guys right now.

There's legions of young men feeling left behind by society, and we need to make sure they don't feel that way before things get ugly.

@jmcs

I think that's oversimplifying the problem, people have been accepting change forever. A big problem now is that a lot of young men feel left behind as things changed, and as a result they are lonely, lost, and looking for a new "role" to play.

The problem is that the only people (at least that are well known enough to make an impact) addressing those feelings are people like Andrew Tate, and Jordan Peterson.

We need some less toxic male influencers.

No matter how much you work, or how much you love your corporate employer, they don't care about you. Sure, maybe your direct superior cares, but he can easily be told to fuck you over if it suits the corp.

https://futurism.com/the-byte/tesla-worker-showered-factory-slept-laid-off

@ocdtrekkie @GossiTheDog

The events were such a big thing, especially if you hire a lot of non-locals. You end up with people, who's entire social circle is in the company, which makes leaving or even criticising the company difficult.

@ocdtrekkie @GossiTheDog

The sad thing is, those big corps do try to brainwash their employees. They put so much money and effort in making their employees think they are all a big awesome family, and that being there makes them cooler and better than everyone else.

I used to work for a place that had events like that, and it worked for a while. I snapped out of it eventually, but the cult tactics do work.

@ocdtrekkie @GossiTheDog

This seems relevant: https://berlin.social/@ainmosni/112404348515843128

@tess @alienghic @mekkaokereke

yeah that they went for those vehicles is telling, we should be trying to get rid of that class of vehicle as they are not even useful for what they are advertised.

That said, I'd go even further and say that unless there's a good reason, personal vehicles should just not be in cities. Have big parking facilities at transit hubs on the edge where people can leave their car and hop in transit.

@liferstate @tess @alienghic @mekkaokereke

Oh, I am pretty aware of how car dependent the US is, and that what I'm saying would be a huge shift in urbanism in most of the cities there, I'm just saying that it's possible, and it does make cities nicer to live in.