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  1. Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 14:10:47 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
    • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
    • nds
    • Eric Duhamel
    @lnxw48 @ericxdu23 @nds They will need 750 supporters to do even the basic services, or bkuhn will have to start working for some company ..
    In conversation Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 14:10:47 UTC from quitter.se permalink
    • nds (nds@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Monday, 23-Nov-2015 22:22:36 UTC nds nds
      I'm really not sure about Software Freedom Conservancy becoming supporter-funded. I think it ought …
      In conversation Monday, 23-Nov-2015 22:22:36 UTC permalink
      Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) repeated this.
    • Eric Duhamel (ericxdu23@loadaverage.org)'s status on Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 08:23:11 UTC Eric Duhamel Eric Duhamel
      • nds
      @nds I thought that was their main purpose. I'm not sure why/when enforcement became part of what they do, but I suppose *someone* has to.
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 08:23:11 UTC permalink
      Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) repeated this.
    • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 10:46:53 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
      in reply to
      • nds
      @nds What they're saying is, unless they get the required funding, they will have to axe compliance work.
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 10:46:53 UTC permalink
    • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 10:48:52 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
      in reply to
      • nds
      @nds Member project funding doesn't even cover fiscal sponsorship. Without supporters they would have to axe small projects or tax big ones.
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 10:48:52 UTC permalink
    • lnxw48 (Linux Walt) (lnxw48@fresh.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 13:56:56 UTC lnxw48 (Linux Walt) lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
      in reply to
      • nds
      @clacke @nds Thanks for explaining. It wasn't clear to me, either.
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 13:56:56 UTC permalink
      Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) repeated this.
    • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 14:04:02 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
      in reply to
      • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
      • nds
      • Eric Duhamel
      @ericxdu23 @lnxw48 @nds They're in compliance 'cause nobody else is, except businesses (money settlements, not freedom) and FSF (GNU only?).
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 14:04:02 UTC permalink
    • nds (nds@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 15:57:52 UTC nds nds
      in reply to
      • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
      • Eric Duhamel
      @lnxw48 @ericxdu23 @clacke what I don't understand is how did it work before? They provided basic s…
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 15:57:52 UTC permalink
      Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) repeated this.
    • lnxw48 (Linux Walt) (lnxw48@fresh.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 16:10:57 UTC lnxw48 (Linux Walt) lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
      in reply to
      • nds
      • Eric Duhamel
      @nds @ericxdu23 @clacke Though I have no answer, I am aware that an organization that is facing fi…
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 16:10:57 UTC permalink
      Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) repeated this.
    • sazius on Mayfirst (saziusmayfirst@social.mayfirst.org)'s status on Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 17:39:08 UTC sazius on Mayfirst sazius on Mayfirst
      in reply to
      • nds
      @nds GPL compliance isn't a separate thing, it's one of the services that Conservancy offers to its members. If your project is licensed under GPL and you don't enforce it, then there's no point in using copyleft at all.
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 17:39:08 UTC permalink
    • nds (nds@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 22:33:57 UTC nds nds
      in reply to
      • sazius on Mayfirst
      @sazius I agree that compliance is important for copylefted projects, but you have to admit, they w…
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Dec-2015 22:33:57 UTC permalink
      Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) repeated this.
    • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Dec-2015 13:51:51 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
      in reply to
      • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
      • nds
      • Eric Duhamel
      @nds @lnxw48 @ericxdu23 They are saying that they had corporate sponsors, now withdrawn because they disagree with Linux GPL enforcement.
      In conversation Tuesday, 08-Dec-2015 13:51:51 UTC permalink
    • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Dec-2015 13:52:51 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
      • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
      • nds
      • Eric Duhamel
      @lnxw48 @nds @ericxdu23 Could have been that way, but what they're saying is they had stable funding, now they don't.
      In conversation Tuesday, 08-Dec-2015 13:52:51 UTC permalink
    • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Dec-2015 14:05:50 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
      in reply to
      • sazius on Mayfirst
      • nds
      • Benedikt Geißler 🐃
      @nds @benediktg @sazius If there are no basic services, there are no projects to do compliance for. That's why it's a separate funding goal.
      In conversation Tuesday, 08-Dec-2015 14:05:50 UTC permalink
    • Eric Duhamel (ericxdu23@loadaverage.org)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Dec-2015 22:18:07 UTC Eric Duhamel Eric Duhamel
      in reply to
      • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
      • nds
      @clacke @nds @lnxw48 "corporate sponsors, now withdrawn", so now at SFC they want a "mandate" from i…
      In conversation Wednesday, 09-Dec-2015 22:18:07 UTC permalink
      Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) repeated this.
    • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 02:21:59 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
      in reply to
      • Eric Duhamel
      @ericxdu23 Yes, that's what Bradley says anyway, don't know if that's the official view. But it makes sense to see it that way.
      In conversation Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 02:21:59 UTC permalink
    • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 02:33:52 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
      • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
      • nds
      • Eric Duhamel
      @ericxdu23 @lnxw48 @nds Since bkuhn left, the SFLC seems to be doing mainly think tank-like work -- making statements and filing amicuses.
      In conversation Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 02:33:52 UTC permalink
    • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 02:35:11 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
      • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
      • nds
      • Eric Duhamel
      @ericxdu23 @lnxw48 @nds The record is confusing, but I get the impression that BusyBox vs Best Buy was started at SFLC but ended at SFC.
      In conversation Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 02:35:11 UTC permalink
    • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 02:47:11 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
      • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
      • nds
      • Eric Duhamel
      @ericxdu23 @lnxw48 @nds Huh. SFLC set up http://freesoftwaresupport.org/ , providing fiscal services for https://diasporafoundation.org/ .
      In conversation Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 02:47:11 UTC permalink
    • nds (nds@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 03:29:13 UTC nds nds
      in reply to
      weird. there's a fight! ;-)
      In conversation Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 03:29:13 UTC permalink
      Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) repeated this.
    • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 06:40:08 UTC Temporary Marjolein Temporary Marjolein
      in reply to
      • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
      • nds
      • Eric Duhamel
      @ericxdu23 @clacke @nds @lnxw48 I have already put them on my list of donations for this year. Because I think it's important that they can continue their work!
      In conversation Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 06:40:08 UTC permalink
      Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) repeated this.
    • Eric Duhamel (ericxdu23@loadaverage.org)'s status on Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 06:45:50 UTC Eric Duhamel Eric Duhamel
      in reply to
      @clacke Found it! Best Buy, Samsung, etc. v BusyBox https://www.softwarefreedom.org/news/2009/dec/14/busybox-gpl-lawsuit/
      In conversation Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 06:45:50 UTC permalink
      Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) repeated this.
    • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 11:09:47 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
      in reply to
      • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
      • Temporary Marjolein
      • nds
      • Eric Duhamel
      @nds @lnxw48 @mk @ericxdu23 bkuhn hinted way back when, that SFC was set up partly because of tension or policy disagreement within SFLC.
      In conversation Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 11:09:47 UTC permalink
    • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 11:11:51 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
      in reply to
      • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
      • Temporary Marjolein
      • nds
      • Eric Duhamel
      @ericxdu23 @lnxw48 @mk @nds Yeah. Note that when the case concludes a couple of years later, it's called SFC vs Best Buy et al.
      In conversation Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 11:11:51 UTC permalink
    • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 11:14:52 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
      in reply to
      • lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
      • Temporary Marjolein
      • nds
      • Eric Duhamel
      @ericxdu23 @lnxw48 @mk @nds http://sfconservancy.org/news/2010/aug/03/busybox-gpl/
      In conversation Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 11:14:52 UTC permalink
    • nds (nds@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 15:08:08 UTC nds nds
      in reply to
      According to their FY2010 Form 990, their total income from legal settlements that year was $204,750. Nothing to sneeze at.
      In conversation Thursday, 10-Dec-2015 15:08:08 UTC permalink
      Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) repeated this.
    • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 12-Dec-2015 08:43:29 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
      in reply to
      • nds
      @nds SFC? Or SFLC? Either way, it probably barely covers the lawyers.
      In conversation Saturday, 12-Dec-2015 08:43:29 UTC permalink

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