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1. Matthew Miller (mattdm@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 08-Apr-2024 22:57:22 UTC Matthew Miller

   Gitlab's source-available proprietary model for "open core" is _worse_ than keeping that code secret, because it serves to poison community implementation of similar features.

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 08-Apr-2024 22:57:17 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Mattias Bengtsson

     @mattiasb @mattdm GitLab has long or always been Open Core with a GitLab CE and a GitLab EE.

     The CE is MIT/Expat licensed, but the main repo where development happens includes the EE folder, which is source-available under the GitLab EE License.

   • Mattias Bengtsson (mattiasb@mastodon.xyz)'s status on Monday, 08-Apr-2024 22:57:21 UTC Mattias Bengtsson

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     @mattdm Did they change license?

   • Michael McCune (elmiko@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 08-Apr-2024 22:58:51 UTC Michael McCune

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     • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

     @jwildeboer @mattdm i've been very impressed with forgejo, been running it locally at home.

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   • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Monday, 08-Apr-2024 22:58:52 UTC Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     @mattdm Why I am on #codeberg, powered by #forgejo, reason #629

   • Matthew Miller (mattdm@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 08-Apr-2024 22:59:26 UTC Matthew Miller

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     • Gordon Messmer

     @gordonmessmer

     Too far outside of RH core competencies to be successful, I think. But, we should have spun it off into its own company ten years ago.

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   • Gordon Messmer (gordonmessmer@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 08-Apr-2024 22:59:29 UTC Gordon Messmer

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     @mattdm I feel like I don't often see Fedora folk criticize GitLab, but yeah... I agree. I am quite sad that Red Hat doesn't see more value in developing and offering Pagure to customers for private, on-site Git management.

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   • Matthew Miller (mattdm@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 08-Apr-2024 22:59:31 UTC Matthew Miller

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     • Gordon Messmer

     @gordonmessmer Anyway, as far as open core companies go, Gitlab is probably the gold standard. https://handbook.gitlab.com/handbook/company/stewardship/ is pretty solid, really.

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   • John Wyatt 🐧💉💉💉 (sageofredondo@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 06:34:01 UTC John Wyatt 🐧💉💉💉

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     • Mattias Bengtsson
     • Björn

     @thaodan @mattiasb @mattdm it was a comment the CEO made in the news years ago.

   • Björn (thaodan@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 06:34:04 UTC Björn

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     • Mattias Bengtsson
     • John Wyatt 🐧💉💉💉

     @sageofredondo @mattiasb @mattdm Where did they do that? Their Gitlab says the license hasn't changed. It's still MIT.

   • John Wyatt 🐧💉💉💉 (sageofredondo@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 06:34:05 UTC John Wyatt 🐧💉💉💉

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     • Mattias Bengtsson

     @mattiasb @mattdm yeah, didn't the ceo say you can move over any proprietary to open source? Did that change?

     That is why Fedora was open to using GitLab.

   • Farce Majeure (vathpela@better.boston)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 06:34:09 UTC Farce Majeure

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     • Scott Williams 🐧
     • Forgejo
     • Gordon Messmer

     @vwbusguy @gordonmessmer @mattdm @forgejo also they're still the only forge I've seen make statements about xz+OpenSSH, and git forges are really serious ssh users.

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   • Scott Williams 🐧 (vwbusguy@mastodon.online)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 06:34:10 UTC Scott Williams 🐧

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     • Forgejo
     • Gordon Messmer

     @gordonmessmer @mattdm I would personally have rather picked @forgejo , both ideologically and out of preference, but there are a lot of people in Fedora that like Gitlab.