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1. Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 01:53:06 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅
   Taylor Swift's music is not "omg yes" to me, but it is good stuff, clearly it is "omg yes" to many people, and I like hearing her music when it pops up in places. She is a hyper-competent writer, composer, singer, producer and business genius and has *taken* space in the man's world of music publishing, while at the same time lifting up women and men around her.
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 01:53:12 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     As a role model for women and men, and a threat to entrenched self-aggrandizing men, she is way up there with Dolly Parton, Madonna, Cher, Beyonce and Lady Gaga and I love her for it. She had a good start in life with a supportive family, but she built her way from there to here with talent, smarts, integrity, good choices, hard work and kindness. Conservatives should love her if they believed in their own ideals.
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 01:53:12 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     I really like what she did in "You Need To Calm Down", the song and the video, giving an extended middle finger to bigots everywhere while also settling the beef between her and Katy Perry in the best way, dancing together and hugging in silly costumes.
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 01:53:13 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     She is a billionaire and she does fly her jet too much, but she's not the first person I'd criticize for it when there's a thousand people who do it worse and don't contribute anything to humanity, culture and individual humans the way she does.
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 01:53:13 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     Taylor Swift: "You Need To Calm Down"

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   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 01:53:16 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     What is "omg yes" music to me? Queen, Mike Oldfield, Daft Punk, Madonna, The Shamen, Lady Gaga, ABBA, in roughly that order.

     Except for Lady Gaga, I've put my money where my mouth is and bought albums from these artists.

     In my playlists I also have Ava Max, Alan Walker, 2 Unlimited, The KLF, Doktor Kosmos, Massive Attack, Enigma, Beastie Boys, The Offspring, Sash!, Vengaboys, Pandora and Die Ärtzte. That's all feel-good or feel-moved music to me.

     EDIT: And Rage Against the Machine. Obviously.

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 01:53:16 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     I think the analysis of my music diet is "clearly an old man living in the past, but not entirely isolated from what played this side of the millennium". 😅
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 01:53:25 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     @sim Because she is a successful business person and embodies the American Dream.

     She doesn't even cause much of a stir apart from being a successful woman with mainstream American values rather than minority frumpy puritan values.

   • sim@shitposter.club's status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 01:53:26 UTC sim

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     @clacke Why should conservatives love her if they believe in conservative values? Does she sing about conservative values? I don't think anyone should have to love an artist even if they shared the same values though. Music is also a huge preference thing and it is okay to not prefer a music style or artist or even a particular song. I do like a few of her songs but I don't buy the idea that anyone has to love her or be a fan of her. Or even see her as a good role model. Fandom can also be quite divisive.
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 03:45:06 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     In particular, she is the kind of capitalist that W-era "compassionate" neocons wanted to idolize, the "look, we don't need unions or the state to step in, because people with money are generous" philanthropy type of conservatism.
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 03:45:23 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     @sim I'm speaking from a US perspective, as she is from there and that's where the discourse is.

     She is rooted in country music, but is mixing it up with a different modern genre on each album.

   • sim@shitposter.club's status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 03:45:24 UTC sim

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     @clacke That sounds more like something that liberals or libertarians would appreciate. Also, not all conservatives seek the American dream or root their conservatism in it. That sounds very American-centric to me.
     
     I prefer listening to artists that sing traditional and older music. I guess that would be country for the US. Classic as a genre is great for conservatives too. But even here, I don't expect conservatives to appreciate it all.