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1. Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 02:04:03 UTC Sexy Moon
   deeply uncomfortable with rights organizations making pragmatic appeals against internet surveillance. would way rather see them saying something like "human decency recognizes the absolute right of people to have private conversations without government eavesdropping."
   • Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 02:04:02 UTC Sexy Moon

     in reply to

     • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
     @freemo a pragmatic appeal means arguing "we shouldn't do it because it won't work" or "it would be too costly to implement"
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   • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 02:04:03 UTC 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     @Moon I think there was a typo in your post, or i misunderstood…

     Isnt this:

     human decency recognizes the absolute right of people to have private conversations without government eavesdropping.

     An example of this

     rights organizations making pragmatic appeals against internet surveillance

   • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 02:04:06 UTC 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     @Moon ahhh I see.. that doesnt sound like a very pragmatic approach to me. But I understand now.

   • Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 02:04:06 UTC Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

     in reply to

     • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
     @freemo Pragmatic as in "for practical reasons" instead "for our priciples". @Moon
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