@clacke "Veritasium" is a clickbait clown. It's a shame people can't seem to see that.
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Mans R (mansr@society.oftrolls.com)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 05:37:00 UTC Mans R -
Santa Claes πΈπͺππ°π (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 05:36:52 UTC Santa Claes πΈπͺππ°π @mansr Exactly. =) -
Mans R (mansr@society.oftrolls.com)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 05:36:55 UTC Mans R @clacke Because people keep posting links and arguing about what he actually meant. His tactics are clearly working.
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Mans R (mansr@society.oftrolls.com)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 05:36:56 UTC Mans R @clacke I don't care much for pop-sci in general, especially not in video format, so why would I know of some dude called Tom Scott?
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Santa Claes πΈπͺππ°π (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 05:36:56 UTC Santa Claes πΈπͺππ°π @mansr Why would you know of Veritasium? -
Mans R (mansr@society.oftrolls.com)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 05:36:57 UTC Mans R @clacke So apart from the titles, thumbnails, framing, presentation, and the silly parts, you think it's OK. At this point, you're doing a reverse "what have the Romans done for us?"
I have no idea who Tom Scott is.
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Santa Claes πΈπͺππ°π (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 05:36:57 UTC Santa Claes πΈπͺππ°π @mansr I like the gift, I just don't care much for the giftwrapping. I don't mind it too much, I get why it's there.
Tom Scott is like if you take Veritasium, remove the click-bait title, the action thumbnail, and replace the whole "media production university major" enthusiasm with subdued English enthusiasm.
> I have no idea who Tom Scott is.
Case in point. π -
Santa Claes πΈπͺππ°π (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 05:36:58 UTC Santa Claes πΈπͺππ°π @mansr Nah, I disagree. His thumbnails and titles are clickbait, but I don't see how "people can't seem to see that" when he himself made a video on it. π
The video content is not too different from e.g. Tom Scott, take some seemingly simple thing and do a deep dive into it.
He does it with more flair than Tom Scott, sure, and maybe sometimes there's a "did you know" or "many people believe" that I find silly, but I don't have problems with the subject matter.
Apart from framing and presentation I think the main difference is that Tom Scott is more "here's a curious thing I found" and Veritasium is more "here's something I wish your primary school teachers had been effective in teaching you".
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Santa Claes πΈπͺππ°π (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 05:36:59 UTC Santa Claes πΈπͺππ°π @mansr He talks about fascinating stuff in an informative way.
He's also good at promoting it and even released a video about that. I don't see the problem.
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Mans R (mansr@society.oftrolls.com)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 05:36:59 UTC Mans R @clacke From what I've seen, he tends to present things in a confusing way, all to maximise the "gotcha" effect and make him look clever, frequently with titles like "everybody is wrong about X" or "they didn't teach you THIS in science class." Engaging, sure, but not informative.
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Santa Claes πΈπͺππ°π (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 05:42:24 UTC Santa Claes πΈπͺππ°π @mansr You made me realize I should subscribe to Tom Scott as his videos won't find their way to me the same way, and the latest video is his 26-week notice that he will be going on hiatus after ten years of non stop posting. =)
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penguin42 (penguin42@mastodon.org.uk)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 00:52:42 UTC penguin42 @mansr @clacke I think he used to be pretty good at it, but then as he said he found the spammier titles got him more hits.
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Mans R (mansr@society.oftrolls.com)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 00:52:43 UTC Mans R @clacke The fact that people never seem to agree on what he actually said suggests that he's not communicating the science particularly well. Of course, that was never his goal to begin with, by his own admission.
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