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1. Devine Lu Linvega (neauoire@merveilles.town)'s status on Monday, 20-Jun-2022 13:14:47 UTC Devine Lu Linvega

   “I think the shift to the cloud will happen at such a rapid rate, that in just a few years I predict there will be no more code on your local computer.”, GitHub CEO

   yikes

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   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 20-Jun-2022 13:18:05 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Garrit :nestjs:
     @garritfra @neauoire There is no difference between github before Microsoft and github after Microsoft except that after Microsoft they have more money to faster acquire adjacent products and they have access to Microsoft's existing product line. The forces are the same as they were.
   • Garrit :nestjs: (garritfra@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 20-Jun-2022 13:18:11 UTC Garrit :nestjs:

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     @neauoire Microsoft probably forced them to say that.

   • alex (aw@merveilles.town)'s status on Monday, 20-Jun-2022 13:19:09 UTC alex

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     @neauoire Chromebooks are already there. I am shocked/concerned after learning from my teacher friends how chromebooks are the primary computer used in US schools at all levels

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   • tech? no! man, see... (technomancy@icosahedron.website)'s status on Monday, 20-Jun-2022 13:19:29 UTC tech? no! man, see...

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     • alex

     @neauoire @aw covid closing the schools really accelerated this push to get them in the hands of every kid in the local school districts, which from an equality perspective was much better than the previous status quo.

     but the rollout here was done in such a way that the chromeos sandbox/firewall was trivially bypassed and you could get a full debian chroot just by asking the OS nicely, which was kind of awesome. granted most kids will continue to see the computer as an appliance, but the kids who are curious will find their exploration rewarded.

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   • Devine Lu Linvega (neauoire@merveilles.town)'s status on Monday, 20-Jun-2022 13:19:30 UTC Devine Lu Linvega

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     • alex

     @aw they are?! damn, that's depressing.

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   • cancel (cancel@merveilles.town)'s status on Monday, 20-Jun-2022 13:21:03 UTC cancel

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     • Natris

     @Natris1979 @neauoire @aw I dunno, in some of the places I frequent online, they're clogged with kids aged like 10-14 using Chromebooks in Linux mode, asking for help with compilers, text editors, data formats

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   • cancel (cancel@merveilles.town)'s status on Monday, 20-Jun-2022 13:21:10 UTC cancel

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     • alex

     @neauoire @aw Chromebooks actually rule. You can drop into real Linux and do whatever you want with just a few clicks. And if you totally screw it up, you can reset it easily.

   • Natris (natris1979@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Monday, 20-Jun-2022 13:21:10 UTC Natris

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     @cancel @neauoire @aw except that's not how people generally use them. Chromebools teach kids that computers are merely a terminal to corporate controlled Internet. Imagine trying to explain to someone who has only ever used Google Docs how to use vi or even libre office. In a consumer cloud context free software is barely comprehendable. I'd seriously rather schools still had Apple II's

   • Chris [list of cold emoji] (suetanvil@mastodon.technology)'s status on Monday, 20-Jun-2022 13:21:18 UTC Chris [list of cold emoji]

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     @neauoire

     "'Cloud sevices are going to be big!', says CEO of cloud services company."

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   • flaeky pancako (fleeky@prsm.space)'s status on Monday, 20-Jun-2022 13:23:35 UTC flaeky pancako

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     @neauoire wat ,

     doesnt git store a copy of the code locally as well? haha

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 20-Jun-2022 13:23:35 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • flaeky pancako
     @fleeky @neauoire Only of you run it locally instead of in a VS Code hosted in an Azure container, which is the direction they are going.
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 20-Jun-2022 13:25:35 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • wakame
     @lanodan @neauoire @wakame github understands computers and github. You wilfully misunderstand what they're saying because the true meaning behind is too distasteful.
   • wakame@tech.lgbt's status on Monday, 20-Jun-2022 13:25:36 UTC wakame

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     @neauoire Almost as if the CEO of GitHub doesn't understand git. Weird.

   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Monday, 20-Jun-2022 13:25:36 UTC Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • wakame
     @wakame @neauoire And doesn't understands computers.
     
     "A computer which doesn't processes code" is an oxyMORON.
   • 🍂Evan Balster🍂 (evan@merveilles.town)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jun-2022 01:02:33 UTC 🍂Evan Balster🍂

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     @neauoire Different subsets of tech/investor insider culture get hyperfixated on something new every few years.

     Always some dramatic vision of something that will simultaneously create social disruption and social utility — a bounty to the masses that also happens to divert markets into producing investor returns.

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   • Devine Lu Linvega (neauoire@merveilles.town)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jun-2022 01:02:34 UTC Devine Lu Linvega

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     • 🍂Evan Balster🍂

     @evan Gosh, "remember VR", so true. I hadn't looked at it this way, "in a few years your code will be on the blockchain" haha

   • 🍂Evan Balster🍂 (evan@merveilles.town)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jun-2022 01:02:35 UTC 🍂Evan Balster🍂

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     @neauoire Every investment boom is like this. Remember VR? Gamification?

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jun-2022 01:02:35 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • wakame
     @lanodan @neauoire @wakame Exactly.
   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jun-2022 01:02:36 UTC Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • wakame
     @clacke @neauoire @wakame Well the real meaning is probably to have computers be less programmable than a high-school calculator.
   • Quad 🌸 (quad@weeaboo.space)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jun-2022 01:02:51 UTC Quad 🌸

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • wakame
     @lanodan @wakame @neauoire did you know you can hit "." when viewing a GitHub repo and you'll get VS Code in your browser? GitLab also has an IDE built-in (Also VS Code now)
     
     You'd be surprised how many people already rarely clone their repos, and it's only going to spread.
     
     Of course, we're (hopefully) still ways away from any professional dev not keeping code on their machine. But for example we've already seen CI take over the job of compiling any test builds.
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   • Be (be@floss.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jun-2022 01:03:01 UTC Be

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     @cancel @amsomniac Linux drops support for hardware when nobody is maintaining the code for it, not just because it's old.

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   • impatient program (amsomniac@mastodon.mit.edu)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jun-2022 01:03:02 UTC impatient program

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     @cancel I mean, the "no more code on your local computer" thing doesn't even make sense, but I think it makes sense to bring up limitations like this when talking abt whether chromebooks rule. while they might well rule, the ipad model sucks

   • cancel (cancel@merveilles.town)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jun-2022 01:03:02 UTC cancel

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     • impatient program

     @amsomniac it's not fundamentally different than windows or mac. the OS eventually drops support for old hardware. google just does it too aggressively, famously. even linux drops support for old stuff, eventually.

   • cancel (cancel@merveilles.town)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jun-2022 01:03:03 UTC cancel

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     • impatient program

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   • impatient program (amsomniac@mastodon.mit.edu)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jun-2022 01:03:03 UTC impatient program

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     @cancel oh I guess they just drop security updates? https://steve-best.github.io/planned-obsolescence

   • cancel (cancel@merveilles.town)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jun-2022 01:03:03 UTC cancel

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     • impatient program

     @amsomniac yeah I mean I don't disagree, but it's not really relevant to what I was talking about.

   • impatient program (amsomniac@mastodon.mit.edu)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jun-2022 01:03:04 UTC impatient program

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     • cancel

     @cancel @akkartik @neauoire @aw oh I thought you were talking about crouton. don't they do planned obsolescence otherwise? https://victoriacomputerclub.org/chromebooks-planned-obsolescence/

   • impatient program (amsomniac@mastodon.mit.edu)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jun-2022 01:03:05 UTC impatient program

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     • alex
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     • cancel

     @cancel @akkartik @neauoire @aw chromebooks (intention) vs chromebooks (reality)

   • cancel (cancel@merveilles.town)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jun-2022 01:03:05 UTC cancel

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     • impatient program
     • alex
     • Kartik Agaram

     @amsomniac @akkartik @neauoire @aw The Linux thing was put in intentionally. It's not a loophole via technical shortcoming. https://support.google.com/chromebook/answer/9145439?hl=en

   • flaeky pancako (fleeky@prsm.space)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jun-2022 01:05:02 UTC flaeky pancako

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     • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

     @clacke @neauoire so i guess they will need to change the name to vs-asure-hub instead of github weee

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jun-2022 01:05:02 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • flaeky pancako
     @fleeky @neauoire You're probably not far off. Azure Code or something would make sense to them.
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jun-2022 10:15:10 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • impatient program
     • alex
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     • cancel
     @cancel Until the business people gain more control over the product.
     
     @amsomniac @neauoire @akkartik @aw