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1. Anke (anke@social.scribblers.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-May-2022 10:32:58 UTC Anke

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   @zens The future is in front of you.

   If you move an appointment in the future to a later time, you move it backward, because you are moving it further away from yourself/the present.

   At least that's how I think of it.

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 25-May-2022 10:32:57 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     @Anke @zens So you are moving forwards toward the future, but the events in the future are moving forwards toward you?
     
     You look back at events that happened last week, but if you delay an upcoming meeting, you move it back?
     
     This actually explains a lot that has been confusing me, not just in English but in Swedish as well.
   • Anke (anke@social.scribblers.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-May-2022 23:02:50 UTC Anke

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     @zens I guess it could be, but I just think of the frame of reference in the second case as "the timeline" or maybe "the calendar".

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   • Luci for Chai Tea (zens@merveilles.town)'s status on Wednesday, 25-May-2022 23:02:51 UTC Luci for Chai Tea

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     @Anke so the frame of reference is an observer in the future that you are moving towards or it isn’t?

   • Anke (anke@social.scribblers.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-May-2022 23:02:52 UTC Anke

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     @zens It is a frame of reference thing.

     When I talk about moving an event, I imagine myself standing still and moving the event relative to myself. Forward is toward myself, backward is away from myself.

     When I talk about time passing, or myself moving through time, I imagine time and events standing still, and myself moving from past towards future, which is forward.

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   • Anke (anke@social.scribblers.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-May-2022 23:02:53 UTC Anke

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     @zens No. The "forward" of moving through time and the "forward" in "moving an event forward" are not the same.

   • Luci for Chai Tea (zens@merveilles.town)'s status on Wednesday, 25-May-2022 23:02:53 UTC Luci for Chai Tea

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     @Anke so it’s not a frame of reference thing? what did you mean by that?

   • Luci for Chai Tea (zens@merveilles.town)'s status on Wednesday, 25-May-2022 23:02:54 UTC Luci for Chai Tea

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     @Anke so to move forward in time, you imagine an observer in the future watching you deep in the past?

   • Anke (anke@social.scribblers.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-May-2022 23:02:55 UTC Anke

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     @zens Different frames of reference.

     Like thinking of the Earth as fixed with the moon rotating around it VS the Sun as fixed with the Earth rotating around it.

   • Anke (anke@social.scribblers.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-May-2022 23:02:56 UTC Anke

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     @zens Yeah.

   • Luci for Chai Tea (zens@merveilles.town)'s status on Wednesday, 25-May-2022 23:02:56 UTC Luci for Chai Tea

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     @Anke so how can you move forward in time if you are always the same distance from yourself?

   • Anke (anke@social.scribblers.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-May-2022 23:02:57 UTC Anke

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     @zens No, you move forwards through time, all the time, unless you have a time machine.

   • Luci for Chai Tea (zens@merveilles.town)'s status on Wednesday, 25-May-2022 23:02:57 UTC Luci for Chai Tea

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     @Anke so if you thought that something happened a week ago, but it happened yesterday, you’re moving the event forward because it is closer to you?

   • Luci for Chai Tea (zens@merveilles.town)'s status on Wednesday, 25-May-2022 23:02:58 UTC Luci for Chai Tea

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     @Anke so if you run towards it you’re running backward?

   • Luci for Chai Tea (zens@merveilles.town)'s status on Wednesday, 25-May-2022 23:03:31 UTC Luci for Chai Tea

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     @Anke i’m from the position of being annoyed that people exist that think differently from me and recognising that pattern as something I should be self criticial about. because diverse systems of thought are actually great for problem solving

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   • Anke (anke@social.scribblers.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-May-2022 23:03:32 UTC Anke

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     @zens You're welcome!
     I'd like to add that I wouldn't argue this is the "proper" way to do it, I just looked at how I think about these things and described that. :)

   • Luci for Chai Tea (zens@merveilles.town)'s status on Wednesday, 25-May-2022 23:03:33 UTC Luci for Chai Tea

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     @Anke thank you for being patient with my annoying and pedantic questions