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1. digdeeper@mastodon.honeypot.im's status on Wednesday, 18-May-2022 05:50:19 UTC digdeeper

   Gmail will block all third party mail clients starting from June: http://www.pmail.com/newsflash.htm

   That is, unless they pay $4500 minimum for an audit :D

   Stop using gmail and enabling their monopolistic practices, if you already haven't.

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   • flabberghaster@mas.to's status on Wednesday, 18-May-2022 05:50:11 UTC flabberghaster

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     @digdeeper is this true? On k-9 mail's issue tracker, some folks were saying they're continuing to support "app passwords" (not your main password but one you create for one purpose). I don't think K9 is going to implement oauth so if google really does do this I'm pretty boned.

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   • anedroid (anedroid@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-2022 11:37:03 UTC anedroid

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     @digdeeper Doing this, they just shoot themselves in the foot. I already have an email account in different provider because I want to get rid of Google services completely. Thanks Google - you have motivated me to hurry up with moving all my accounts, giving me one more reason to leave, one more proof that you're hostile towards user's interest and monopolist killing free market.

   • Becky (firefly_lightning@convenient.email)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-2022 23:21:13 UTC Becky

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     @digdeeper Thanks, I hate it
     
     My partner runs a mail server, which I use, and google already blocks it seemingly randomly
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 21-May-2022 06:16:17 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • imyxh
     • T. Emil Rivera-Thorsen
     @imyxh Sounds like any IMAP application to me?
     
     @thriveth @digdeeper
   • imyxh@weirder.earth's status on Saturday, 21-May-2022 06:16:21 UTC imyxh

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     • T. Emil Rivera-Thorsen

     @digdeeper @thriveth hold on, I think this is only mail clients that store user data on third-party servers.

     "Every app that requests access to restricted scope Google user’s data *and has the ability to access data from or through a third party server* is required to go through a security assessment from Google [....]"

   • Maxi ☑️ (frumble@chaos.social)'s status on Saturday, 21-May-2022 06:48:20 UTC Maxi ☑️

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     @digdeeper What about this?

     »IMAP will continue to be available, but you will need to use more secure authentication. Most modern email programs support OAuth2 authentication, but if yours does not, then you can enable 2-step verification and use an App Password.«

     https://support.google.com/mail/thread/157808790?hl=en&msgid=157817737

   • Yujiri (yujiri@collapsitarian.io)'s status on Saturday, 21-May-2022 06:48:25 UTC Yujiri

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     • flabberghaster
     @digdeeper @flabberghaster I read that Google article a long time ago, it basically just says they're going to disable auth methods other than oauth but you can still use a client without that. I'm kinda suspicious of the pegasus mail story because the part that looks like a link at the beginning isn't, and searching for fragments of the text they quote "verbatim", I can't find the article they're quoting
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   • digdeeper@mastodon.honeypot.im's status on Saturday, 21-May-2022 06:48:28 UTC digdeeper

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     • flabberghaster

     @flabberghaster

     Looks that way, unless the Pegaus Mail dev made up the whole story. There is apparently some doc from Google, that I can't read because I'm not willing to enable JS there: https://support.google.com/accounts/thread/154305711/less-secure-apps-your-google-account-termination-date-of-may-30th-2022

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 21-May-2022 10:48:11 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • imyxh
     @imyxh No I meant the exact phrasing above, but I don't know if that's Google's phrasing, sounds like an application that can connect to gmail but also to other servers is subject to the audit requirement, which would apply to any application that is a generic IMAP client.
   • imyxh@weirder.earth's status on Saturday, 21-May-2022 10:48:12 UTC imyxh

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     • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

     @clacke oh, I now realize you probably meant that any IMAP connection would continue to be allowed. Yeah I think so!