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1. Nate Cull (natecull@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-2022 05:45:48 UTC Nate Cull

   Man Adam Curtis is a hard watch for me. He.... wanders a lot.

   I'm 38 minutes into Machines of Loving Grace and I still don't really get what his point is.

   I know what his point *wants* to be but, he's wandering, he's not sticking to the point.

   • Nate Cull (natecull@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-2022 05:45:47 UTC Nate Cull

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     Like okay we're somehow talking about Clinton's affairs and about the Asian Crisis and ALSO, about Suharto in Indonesia, and we're not talking about Suharto being a fascist mass murderer, but something about currency controls? what is the POINT here

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   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-2022 05:53:53 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     @natecull So Adam ruins everything including his own film?
     
     ... oh. That Adam is Adam Conover.
     
     > Kevin Adam Curtis (born 26 May 1955) is an English documentary filmmaker.
     
     Ah, ok. Yeah, not the same.
     
     en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Cur…
   • Nate Cull (natecull@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-2022 05:53:54 UTC Nate Cull

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     WHAT now we're suddenly doing 9/11 why

     what does THIS have to do with Silicon Valley ....?

     Cos we've now jumped US Presidents entirely, and we're focusing just on Alan Greenspan?

     I guess because Curtis' thesis is that "presidents don't matter" BUT GEORGE W BUSH IS A CLASSIC COUNTEREXAMPLE OF HOW THEY DO!

     Good grief.

   • Nate Cull (natecull@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-2022 05:53:54 UTC Nate Cull

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     Greenspan cutting interest rates in 2001, sure, but,

     we still opened up the Monica Lewinsky thread and it went nowhere and why? why even mention that? why?

     what's your POINT Adam?

   • Nate Cull (natecull@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-2022 05:53:55 UTC Nate Cull

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     Remember, the Lewinsky crisis is what created MoveOn Dot Org and a whole tsunami of Democratic Party online organizations and also probably what got George W Bush elected, arguably the start of political polarization and online fragmentation, so big enough, but I'm not sure that that's what Adam Curtis has in mind here, I'm still waiting for the point about how Ayn Rand's love affairs have something to do with the influence of Objectivism on US economic policy in the 1990s.

   • Nate Cull (natecull@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-2022 05:53:56 UTC Nate Cull

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     ok so the Asian Crisis, right, definitely connectable to right-wing economics, yes, but now we're back to Monica Lewinsky, which is connected to Ayn Rand and Nathaniel Branden.......... how again?

   • Nate Cull (natecull@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-2022 11:29:21 UTC Nate Cull

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     • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

     @clacke

     Heh, Adam Curtis and Adam Conover might be fun to put together in a mock documentary!

     But it'd have to have Ken Burns too.

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