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1. calcifer@hackers.town's status on Thursday, 05-May-2022 11:55:31 UTC calcifer

   Has it been more than 24 months since you got a raise? Go ask.

   Take a second to do some research about what your role is paid in other orgs in your area. If you're paid noticably less, mention that.

   Also organize your thoughts around the good things you've done since last raise. Did you take on new responsibility? Achieve something hard? Exceed goals? Any of that is stuff you can bring up.

   Read about negotiating salary during interviews and apply those tactics.

   Don't be adversarial. Your tone here is "I've considered my pay in comparison to the market and in light of performance, and I'd like your help getting my pay to reflect that"; yes, your boss is probably not on your side, but it's in your interest to act like this is a thing you'll work on together. Your boss will know you might leave, it's implied: it doesn't serve you at all to point it out

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   • calcifer@hackers.town's status on Thursday, 05-May-2022 11:55:31 UTC calcifer

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     If you get blown off, wait a bit. Sometimes that's just a boss trying to avoid making a promise while they address it.

     If you get told no, be pragmatic. Thank your boss for hearing you out, then quietly start looking for a new job. You don't want to get pushed out before you have something new lined up, so you've got to act like you're planning to stay

     do not get mad or snippy. You'll destroy any chance of help and put your job at risk. That takes control away from you. Calm and professional is powerful and maximizes the control you have over what happens next

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   • calcifer@hackers.town's status on Thursday, 05-May-2022 11:56:09 UTC calcifer

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     @sng @carcinopithecus good tip. Be aware their data is by title, and sometimes your title doesn't match what you DO. Search job boards to find jobs that have similar duties/skills and ask about those titles too!

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   • DC Rat (sng@bsd.network)'s status on Thursday, 05-May-2022 11:56:10 UTC DC Rat

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     @calcifer @carcinopithecus In the US consider calling up your BLS regional office. They have people who absolutely love helping you find data to support your position. Start on their site and call if you have questions.