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Adam Dalliance (pre@boing.world)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2022 21:44:39 UTC Adam Dalliance
@sabogato @saxnot @atomicpoet
Yeah. Community still isn't working well and we could surely do with better a groups system. What if someone wanted to join sunbeam's mission but already has a perfectly servicable instance of their own. Why can't I subscribe to Sunbeam's timelines from outside, say?

In conversation Tuesday, 12-Apr-2022 21:44:39 UTC from boing.world permalink
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- Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2022 21:48:26 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅
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  @sabogato But it's all fake. There are no real "servers", they're just namespaces. It's all Discord's service. You don't choose where your identity lives because you can only choose Discord.
  
  @saxnot @atomicpoet @pre
  
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- Sabo Gato (he/him) (sabogato@sunbeam.city)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2022 21:48:27 UTC Sabo Gato (he/him)
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  - saxnot [he/him]
  - Chris Trottier
  @pre @saxnot @atomicpoet this is one thing that Discord seems to get right. I have an identity outside of the servers I join.
  Each server is its own community, but I don't feel the pressure to choose a single server to be my "home" server like I do in the fediverse.
  It is a paid feature that I refuse to pay for, but I can even construct an entirely unique facade per server if needed (though it is impossible to be 100% pseudonymous due to the user id being visible)
  
  In conversation Tuesday, 12-Apr-2022 21:48:27 UTC permalink
- Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 22-Apr-2022 11:17:31 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅
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  > My toots auto-delete after 1w which means the Masto toot chain broke (bad protocol implementation ; RFC 822 does chaining a lot better)
  
  Even OStatus did it in an RFC822-like manner. I don't know why AP dropped that.
  
  @saxnot @sabogato @atomicpoet @pre
  
  In conversation Friday, 22-Apr-2022 11:17:31 UTC permalink
- saxnot [he/him] (saxnot@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 22-Apr-2022 11:17:33 UTC saxnot [he/him]
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  @sabogato @clacke @atomicpoet @pre sorry i was sort of absent
  Do we want to chat upon the topic of #ActivityPub2/#Mastodev/#Pleroma?
  ideally via Mumble/Jitsi or something.
  My toots auto-delete after 1w which means the Masto toot chain broke (bad protocol implementation ; RFC 822 does chaining a lot better)
  
  In conversation Friday, 22-Apr-2022 11:17:33 UTC permalink
- Sabo Gato (he/him) (sabogato@sunbeam.city)'s status on Friday, 22-Apr-2022 11:17:34 UTC Sabo Gato (he/him)
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  @clacke @saxnot @atomicpoet @pre oh, I'm well aware. It is all a UX and presentation problem.
  If we wanted to, we could make a mastodon client that made alts work more like Discord and made each alt feel like part of separate communities.
  I'm not sure if that is worth doing or not.
  
  In conversation Friday, 22-Apr-2022 11:17:34 UTC permalink
- Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 24-Apr-2022 07:16:47 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅
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  @saxnot It is ActivityPub, not ActivityPub 2.
  
  (2008) OpenMicroBlogging was ActivityStreams 1 (I think!) over XMPP. This led to OStatus.
  
  (2009) OStatus was ActivityStreams 1 over Atom/WebSub/Salmon. This led to the pump.io protocol.
  
  (2012) The pump.io protocol was ActivityStreams 1 over a purpose-made JSON protocol. This was updated and standardized as ActivityPub.
  
  (2018) ActivityPub is ActivityStreams 2 over a purpose-made JSON protocol.
  
  @sabogato @atomicpoet @pre
  
  In conversation Sunday, 24-Apr-2022 07:16:47 UTC permalink
- saxnot [he/him] (saxnot@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 24-Apr-2022 07:16:48 UTC saxnot [he/him]
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  @clacke @sabogato @atomicpoet @pre OStatus DROPPED that?
  You're telling me AP has something to do with OStatus? Then why is it AP2 and not OStatus3?
  
  In conversation Sunday, 24-Apr-2022 07:16:48 UTC permalink
- Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 24-Apr-2022 08:44:41 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅
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  @saxnot I could be using the Friendica user setting to automatically notify everyone without an explicit @ but what I actually do instead is to edit the @s out after posting as this allows me to untag people when appropriate.
  
  Nothing in the protocol ties mentions in the text to actual recipients in the payload; That's a platform convention, and even StatusNet itself was inconsistent between releases on whether mentions were explicit by default or not.
  
  @sabogato @atomicpoet @pre
  
  In conversation Sunday, 24-Apr-2022 08:44:41 UTC permalink
- saxnot [he/him] (saxnot@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 24-Apr-2022 08:44:42 UTC saxnot [he/him]
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  @clacke how are you able to response without @ing me? @sabogato @atomicpoet @pre
  
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