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1. Emacsen (emacsen@emacsen.net)'s status on Monday, 11-Apr-2022 09:12:59 UTC Emacsen

   My framework laptop is in a state of perpetual sleep.

   I've had sleep/wake issues with it before but now it just won't wake up. That means I need to pull the battery, which is doable but non-trivial.

   Batteries should be externally accessible...

   • Emacsen (emacsen@emacsen.net)'s status on Monday, 11-Apr-2022 09:12:58 UTC Emacsen

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     ...but I don't have the original screwdriver or a T5 screwdriver, so rebooting the laptop will have to wait for that...

     Ugg.

   • Seachaint :verified: (seachaint@hackers.town)'s status on Monday, 11-Apr-2022 09:12:58 UTC Seachaint :verified:

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     @emacsen My (non-framework) laptop sometimes experiences a similar problem. I don't know if this works for Framework, but my one's BIOS does respond to a hold-power-button-for-a-long-time hard reset. Longer than the usual 5 second hard reset, more like 15-25 seconds.

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   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 11-Apr-2022 14:38:31 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Seachaint :verified:
     @emacsen @seachaint An issue with the SSD's firmware prevents warm and cold reboots?
     
     Comouters of today are a mistake.
   • Emacsen (emacsen@emacsen.net)'s status on Monday, 11-Apr-2022 14:38:32 UTC Emacsen

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     • Seachaint :verified:

     @seachaint

     Long press reset doesn't help here.

     This is apparently a known issue with the SSD's firmware, and it's fixable if you update that firmware. In the meantime the only thing you can do is either let it run out of power or unplug the battery.

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 11-Apr-2022 15:11:52 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Seachaint :verified:
     @seachaint @emacsen I had this with the Pinebook not-Pro, a phone and I've seen it with someone else's phone.
     
     Not so that hard-rebooting helped, but so that you had to charge it on a trickle current for three days before it started charging in earnest.
     
     Modern lithium batteries contain their own computer that regulates charging and it needs some charge to be able to charge. If it's not calibrated right it won't report 0% charge with enough margin and then you get this.
   • Seachaint :verified: (seachaint@hackers.town)'s status on Monday, 11-Apr-2022 15:11:53 UTC Seachaint :verified:

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     • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

     @clacke @emacsen My one's issue is that if the battery runs out, it can't activate the charging circuit anymore, so you have to hard-reboot the bios to reenable charging. Undocumented issue, might just be mine.. Computers are indeed a mistake

   • Emacsen (emacsen@emacsen.net)'s status on Monday, 11-Apr-2022 23:21:19 UTC Emacsen

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     @clacke @seachaint

     https://community.frame.work/t/unable-to-wake-from-sleep/5016/61?page=1

     https://www.reddit.com/r/framework/comments/re0oaa/sleep_mode_issue/

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 11-Apr-2022 23:21:19 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Seachaint :verified:
     @emacsen @seachaint The first one sounds more like what I also had (have?) with the Pinebook: Screen, rather than SSD, wouldn't come on after sleep.
   • Emacsen (emacsen@emacsen.net)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2022 16:37:33 UTC Emacsen

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     @clacke @seachaint

     I'm waiting for the T5 screwdriver to arrive. Then I'll unplug the darn thing from its battery.

     I wonder how to upgrade its firmware...

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