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1. Fitheach (fitheach@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-2022 13:39:52 UTC Fitheach

   Why do I discuss "old" music all the time?

   Because all chart music of the last 10 (maybe 20) years is crap.

   There, I've said it.

   #music

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-2022 13:39:50 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • flutergork
     @flutergork @fitheach Does that mean you were born in the 70s / late 60s? 😉
   • flutergork (flutergork@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-2022 13:39:51 UTC flutergork

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     @fitheach Longer than that. I'd say it started in the '90s.

   • Fitheach (fitheach@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-2022 13:45:02 UTC Fitheach

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     I know, I know. Old guy doesn't like modern music is hardly a shock. Every generation has experienced this disconnection from music that comes after their heyday.

     However, what is happening now is more than that. The major labels (who dominate the charts) have strangled creativity, and instead package content to adhere to pre-defined "hits" criteria. One example is the ubiquitous use of auto-tune, which results in everyone sounding like the same robotic singer. Urgghh!

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   • pettter (pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-2022 14:26:58 UTC pettter

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     @fitheach
     Solution: fuck the charts.

     But also, find the gems.

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   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-2022 14:35:55 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     @fitheach 10s: Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry
     
     00s: Eminem
   • Fitheach (fitheach@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-2022 14:35:56 UTC Fitheach

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     One might say that chart music isn't important. There is still lots of great music being produced, and the old music never goes away.

     However, there is one thing missing: the music that defines a generation. In the past, every generation (or decade) had songs or artists which defined that period. Examples include: Glenn Miller in the 40s, Frank Sinatra in the 50s, The Stones and The Beatles in the 60s. Who or what defined the 00s or 10s? I really don't know.

   • Fitheach (fitheach@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-2022 23:58:13 UTC Fitheach

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     • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

     @clacke
     I'll give you Taylor Swift. The others are, I'd argue, music celebrities, rather than music greats. I'd also add Beyoncé to that list. I don't consider their catalogues to contain the pop classics of the future.

   • Fitheach (fitheach@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-2022 23:59:44 UTC Fitheach

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     • Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK
     • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

     @vfrmedia
     I'll happily bow to your precise knowledge of the radio market. However, I see two dangers to the radio scene.The first is the demise of the independent minded DJ, in favour of computer generated playlists. The second is the continuing dominance of Spotify. That second problem probably feeds the first problem. I sense a downward spiral.

     @clacke

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   • Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK (vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-2022 23:59:45 UTC Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK

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     • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

     @fitheach @clacke

     there was a discussion about this yesterday, in the context of radio broadcasting. I think a combination of commercial labels and streaming services creates a situation where the remaining "new" artists are chasing much the same sound in the hope of making a career out of music, whilst music has become *less* important for many young people as they are caught up in a constant hustle to survive (I don't hear of as many young folk starting bands or becoming DJs as in 90s/00s)>>

   • Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK (vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Mar-2022 00:00:01 UTC Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK

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     • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

     @fitheach

     this is *exactly* what is happening with the radio scene and younger presenters, some told me themselves they just pick the tracks recommended to them from whatever apps they use on their mobile phones. TBH the only place I get to hear about new/alternative music nowadays is either the Fediverse or the old "steam radio" of Radio Caroline (and some of our older volunteers on Ipswich Community Radio)

     @clacke

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   • Andy C (andyc@pleroma.stream)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Mar-2022 12:54:52 UTC Andy C

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     @fitheach The 24 year old student who works behind the bar at my local chooses all the playlists. Packed full of 80s and 90s classics - The Smiths, The Cure, New Order, Radiohead, R.E.M, Pixies, Nirvana, Oasis Stone Roses etc.
     
     Which really surprised me.
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