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1. Sean Tilley (sean@social.deadsuperhero.com)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-2022 03:07:33 UTC Sean Tilley

   Every repo I find of a #Matrix homeserver implementation in #Elixir is like 10 to 25 commits before the repo owner just throws up their hands and abandons it.

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   • Sean Tilley (sean@social.deadsuperhero.com)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-2022 03:07:46 UTC Sean Tilley

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     I know a handful of people that kind of dislike Matrix for one reason or another (mostly complexity? default homeserver is kind of shitty? weird slight of hand with E2E encryption?) but it’d be kind of neat to figure out how to integrate homeserver capabilities into a fediverse platform, for chat purposes.

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   • Emacsen (emacsen@emacsen.net)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-2022 03:08:26 UTC Emacsen

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     @sean

     Why?

   • Sean Tilley (sean@social.deadsuperhero.com)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-2022 03:08:26 UTC Sean Tilley

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     • Emacsen

     Literally no other reason than “it’d be neat”. There’s zero reason for it to exist, beyond personal interest in seeing what could be done with it.

     I like Element a fair bit, and I like the idea of being able to point the client at a fediverse instance and just automatically get chat functionality for free.

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   • Sean Tilley (sean@social.deadsuperhero.com)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-2022 03:08:42 UTC Sean Tilley

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     • opal

     I dunno, maybe. I just remember when Diaspora ended up putting a huge amount of effort into it, and the experience just kind of sucked all around. Though, a lot of that hinges more on how it was implemented, rather than the technology itself.

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   • opal (wowaname@anime.website)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-2022 03:08:43 UTC opal

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     @sean xmpp is more worth the effort
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-2022 03:12:20 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • opal
     @sean @wowaname The only connection between the IM and the social web platform is identity, isn't it?
     
     From there on it's good old boring and hard UI integration work.
   • Sean Tilley (sean@social.deadsuperhero.com)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-2022 05:29:05 UTC Sean Tilley

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     • oh yes (sickos mode)

     Yeah, that was kind of my thought, too. You’d think that it’d be a natural fit.

     Then again, maybe it’s just a case where the overlap of “people who are Elixir programmers” and “people who are interested in Matrix” did not contain that many people.

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   • oh yes (sickos mode) (libc@snack.social)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-2022 05:29:10 UTC oh yes (sickos mode)

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     @sean considering BEAM seems to be a natural fit for the problem domain, Concerning™
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   • Sean Tilley (sean@social.deadsuperhero.com)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-2022 05:29:31 UTC Sean Tilley

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     • chat fantaisie

     Thanks for sharing this, that’s cool that you spent some time working on this!

     Yeah, I’d imagine that working on a project with a moving API target would definitely be a pain in the butt. It’s kind of hard to build towards something when the vision keeps changing.

     Also, I still don’t really know how to deal with state management myself; I was trying to do it for a Vue project and realized that I really need to brush up on JavaScript before moving forward with it at all.

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   • chat fantaisie (fc@fedi.fancycade.xyz)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-2022 05:29:33 UTC chat fantaisie

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     @sean
     
     I spent some time helping out this project:
     
     https://github.com/niklaslong/matrix-elixir-sdk
     
     Not a server, but theoretically you might be able to use parts for a server. This one includes some of the interop for the crypto libraries.
     
     
     It was a real slog. Moving target api is one problem, but the state management is a pain. No official docs for that part!
     
     
     However, I think Elixir is well suited for application service's https://matrix.org/docs/guides/application-services. Which from my understanding involves just implementing some routes. You could maybe implement some kind of Matrix - Fedi bridge that way.
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