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1. inscript (inscript@merveilles.town)'s status on Friday, 04-Mar-2022 13:01:59 UTC inscript

   what can you do with a computer besides re-implement all the stuff that's already on it

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   • Izzy Swart (syntacticsugarglider@merveilles.town)'s status on Saturday, 05-Mar-2022 04:37:58 UTC Izzy Swart

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     @eris @inscript but yes kiosks for analogies are incredibly boring and in many cases worse than their concrete parallels, because an information society is a toxic & convergence-producing thing

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   • Izzy Swart (syntacticsugarglider@merveilles.town)'s status on Saturday, 05-Mar-2022 04:37:58 UTC Izzy Swart

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     @eris @inscript i more or less only care about the class of systems that i'm currently unable to contentfully reason about. there are "practical" problems to solve in computing, but only as given by an ontology that assumes the necessity of the domains in which those problems exist. & escaping sufficiently from technoprogressivism makes it readily apparent that those needs aren't so self-evident, to put it mildly

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   • Izzy Swart (syntacticsugarglider@merveilles.town)'s status on Saturday, 05-Mar-2022 04:37:59 UTC Izzy Swart

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     @eris @inscript i think about computing being interesting more or less solely in its capacity to exteriorize like, analogical processes of thought. a library of abstract combinators over semantics embedded in silico, & can use those in same way as cognitive patternicity to explore novelty & implication. i suppose this is what Kay talk(ed/s) about... society w/ aid of computation, as mediated by computation is more variant than society mediated by language, & equally unimaginable from without

   • eris (eris@merveilles.town)'s status on Saturday, 05-Mar-2022 04:38:03 UTC eris

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     @inscript i dont give a shit about games i dont give a shit about text editors beyond being a tool to do something else i dont give a shit about the office sweet i dont care bout art software i dont need knowledge preservation stuff

     and like. it just seems like the reason i use computers is because i have to?

     there's nothing here for me

   • eris (eris@merveilles.town)'s status on Saturday, 05-Mar-2022 04:38:04 UTC eris

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     @inscript same here...

     it's whats leading to my doubts over computers as a tool and computation as a medium

   • eris (eris@merveilles.town)'s status on Saturday, 05-Mar-2022 04:38:04 UTC eris

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     @inscript it's like, "wow i dislike all of the things we use computers for, lets make a computer that lacks these things" and then i dont have anything left

   • inscript (inscript@merveilles.town)'s status on Saturday, 05-Mar-2022 04:38:05 UTC inscript

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     When I think about the possibilities of computing, I have a hard time thinking outside of the handful of office apps, games, and a/v software. This isn't a dig at people who are doing that, more so just that I can't even imagine what's possible with a computer besides Windows 95-type stuff. Applications are boring, but so is "strap this monitor to your head". Stuff like Dynamicland is cool (amazing actually), but they mostly just use new interfaces with the same old abstractions.

   • eris (eris@merveilles.town)'s status on Saturday, 05-Mar-2022 04:41:48 UTC eris

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     @inscript hmm just realised i dont hold this objection for specific purpose computers lile my mp3 player

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   • eris (eris@merveilles.town)'s status on Saturday, 05-Mar-2022 04:41:55 UTC eris

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     @inscript does this make my objection to computers as opposed to things that do computation

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   • Izzy Swart (syntacticsugarglider@merveilles.town)'s status on Monday, 28-Mar-2022 06:03:26 UTC Izzy Swart

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     @inscript @eris you don't need a complete theory of physics to eat an apple

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   • inscript (inscript@merveilles.town)'s status on Monday, 28-Mar-2022 06:03:27 UTC inscript

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     @syntacticsugarglider @eris I think those practical reasons have become an interesting vehicle for the theory, I guess one of the things that hard for me is to envision "an escape" from that ontology that still uses the same sort of theoretical substrate.

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   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 28-Mar-2022 10:21:09 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     @eris After the age of 25 the favorite bands are set in stone and the album catalog complete. 😁
     
     
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   • eris (eris@merveilles.town)'s status on Monday, 28-Mar-2022 10:21:10 UTC eris

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     @yoshir @inscript im not

   • yoshir (yoshir@lor.sh)'s status on Monday, 28-Mar-2022 10:21:16 UTC yoshir

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     @eris
     And how are you going to get new music? Go out and buy a CD?
     @inscript

   • eris (eris@merveilles.town)'s status on Monday, 28-Mar-2022 10:21:17 UTC eris

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     @inscript one of the biggest things that i can't sacrifice is music but like, i dont need something revolutionary or new or innovative to do music, i need my mp3 player on the desk beside me.

     chat apps just let me talk to people that i should be talking to in person, and i prefer books to pdfs