Conversation

Notices

1. Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2022 08:37:21 UTC Aral Balkan

   It’s appalling how some of the discourse on the left currently boils down to “if you only do as he says, he won’t have to harm you.”

   Can you people even hear yourselves right now?

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 likes this.
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2022 08:37:50 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

     in reply to
     @aral Yeah. "Look what you made me do" is abuser 101.
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2022 10:54:22 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

     in reply to

     • brie
     @brie @aral That is interesting, thank you.
     
     Razem press release in English:
     
     partiarazem.pl/2022/03/razem-l…
   • brie (brie@venera.social)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2022 10:54:23 UTC brie

     in reply to
     @aral Polish left-wing "Razem" ("Together") party has just decided to leave #ProgIntl and #DiEM_25 over the issue. And I thought at least these orgs should be relatively tankie-free...
   • Caleb James DeLisle (cjd@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2022 13:54:45 UTC Caleb James DeLisle

     in reply to

     @aral
     My dad says that in the US, the Right is saying Putin is a "really smart guy" 🤦♂️

     Mainstream politics 🚽

     Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 likes this.
   • Caleb James DeLisle (cjd@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2022 14:55:28 UTC Caleb James DeLisle

     in reply to

     @aral
     When he told me this, I could not believe it.

     Like, guys, strategy, all you had to say was "This would have never happened if Trump was president" and then stop talking. But no, they just have to compete for Worst Take 2022. 🤦♂️

     Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 likes this.
   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2022 14:55:29 UTC Aral Balkan

     in reply to

     • Caleb James DeLisle

     @cjd Yep, that’s Trump and his lot.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 03-Mar-2022 02:19:03 UTC Aral Balkan

     in reply to

     • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅
     • Devan
     • brie

     @dvn @clacke @brie They’re backtracking slightly for optics (see the Feb 24th version: “Stop Putin’s invasion. Stop NATO escalation.” https://web.archive.org/web/20220224163502/https://diem25.org/stop-the-war-ukraine/) but see Yanis’s tweets and the tweets from Razem members for more details.

     Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 likes this.
   • Devan (dvn@social.weho.st)'s status on Thursday, 03-Mar-2022 02:19:09 UTC Devan

     in reply to

     • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅
     • brie

     @clacke @aral @brie I don't understand what spurred that decision. This has been on diem25.org's front page since Feb. 24: https://diem25.org/stop-the-war-ukraine/

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 03-Mar-2022 02:21:20 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

     in reply to

     • Caleb James DeLisle
     @cjd @aral Now I learned about the America First PAC, which seems to be Russia First.
     
     libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-1…