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1. Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 09:09:26 UTC Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

   I found out I’m eligible to use a rare exception in the Dutch nationality rules, allowing me to legally have two nationalities at the same time. Dutch and German. I plan to take that opportunity. Two passports, two national identities. I like.

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 09:09:19 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • oiyouyeahyou
     @oiyouyeahyou @jwildeboer The US has no problem with dual citizenship since 1967. In fact they make it complicated to drop your US citizenship so that they can cash in on the global jurisdiction claimed by the IRS.
   • oiyouyeahyou@mastodon.social's status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 09:09:25 UTC oiyouyeahyou

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     @jwildeboer Is the Netherlands like the US, where they don't really accept dual nationalities?

   • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 09:11:56 UTC Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     • Andreas Abendroth

     @tschervanky details here: https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/nederlandse-nationaliteit/nederlandse-nationaliteit-verliezen/automatisch-verlies-van-de-nederlandse-nationaliteit

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   • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 09:11:57 UTC Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     • Andreas Abendroth

     @tschervanky as I said in my first toot, there is an exception (actually 3). In my case I can prove I left the Netherlands at least 5 years before turned 18 years. That allows me to keep my Dutch citizenship when applying for a German one.

   • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 09:12:03 UTC Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     • Andreas Abendroth

     @tschervanky yes.

   • Andreas Abendroth (tschervanky@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 09:12:03 UTC Andreas Abendroth

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     @jwildeboer I thought, You have to give it up. But it's good, if not.

   • Andreas Abendroth (tschervanky@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 09:12:04 UTC Andreas Abendroth

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     @jwildeboer But can You keep the dutch citizenship when You get the german?

   • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 09:12:05 UTC Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     But naturalisation in Germany (more specific: Bavaria) is a process that takes 8-16 months and doesn’t come for free. It forces me to get a certificate to prove I can speak German (I’ve lived here since 40 years, went to school, university). Maybe I can learn something new :)

   • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 09:12:05 UTC Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     I haven’t yet found out if there is a waiting period after gaining German citizenship to be eligible to get elected. I do plan to become an elected politician and cause some productive trouble :)

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   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 09:13:06 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Andreas Abendroth
     @jwildeboer @tschervanky Interesting that it lets you keep you Dutch nationality if you have *less* connection with the Netherlands.
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 09:15:32 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • oiyouyeahyou
     I work in a bank. The Office of Foreign Assets Control claim global jurisdiction over US citizens and other "US persons" too, so we have special rules for "US persons".
     
     @jwildeboer @oiyouyeahyou
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 09:24:49 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Andreas Abendroth
     @tschervanky @jwildeboer "It also specifically states that the law will be changed to allow “multiple citizenship”, suggesting that non-EU citizens will [ . . . ]"
     
     It seems EU citizens have been able to keep their citizenship when gaining a German one.
     
     democratic-europe.eu/2021/12/0…
   • Andreas Abendroth (tschervanky@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 09:24:50 UTC Andreas Abendroth

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     @jwildeboer No, I meant that Germany lets You keep Your Dutch citizenship.

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 09:39:05 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Andreas Abendroth
     @jwildeboer @tschervanky The information seems a bit shaky on this point, actually. I can ony find references that say that German citizens can keep their citizenship when they gain a new one, but it seems even EU citizens need to renounce their existing citizenship when gaining a German one.
     
     www.gesetze-im-internet.de/eng…
   • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 09:59:23 UTC Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     • Andreas Abendroth

     @tschervanky Here’s the official answer - yes. Since 2007. https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/de/service/konsularinfo/staatsangehoerigkeitsrecht

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   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 10:01:23 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Andreas Abendroth
     @jwildeboer Thanks for the reference. Wikipedia currently says this on one page without reference, while another page doesn't mention this update at all.
     
     @tschervanky
   • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 10:48:21 UTC Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅
     • Andreas Abendroth

     @clacke @tschervanky Why I still prefer looking for real sources, episode 6491 ;)

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