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1. Boud (boud@framapiaf.org)'s status on Friday, 04-Feb-2022 12:18:46 UTC Boud

   in reply to

   • kravietz 🦇
   • Dmitry Borodaenko
   • Nemo_bis

   @angdraug

   What's new is making these promises when mainstream media is strongly focussed on the issue.

   "The devil is in the details." The diplomats should explain what they mean by both sides promising an "unconditional ceasefire" in relation to the actual reports coming from the OSCE SMM. The media should focus on this too. Where are the mainstream news articles?

   Analysis of the OSCE SMM reports would be useful: inferring which side is violating requires geo-analysis.

   @kravietz @nemobis

   • Dmitry Borodaenko (angdraug@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 04-Feb-2022 12:18:53 UTC Dmitry Borodaenko

     in reply to

     • kravietz 🦇
     • Nemo_bis

     @boud What I meant is that committing to a ceasefire doesn't in any way change Russia's public stance: they have already been bound by a ceasefire (that they didn't keep). How is reiterating the same commitment a change in public stance at all, and how is it a de-escalation?

     @kravietz @nemobis

   • Boud (boud@framapiaf.org)'s status on Friday, 04-Feb-2022 12:18:54 UTC Boud

     • kravietz 🦇
     • Dmitry Borodaenko
     • Nemo_bis

     @angdraug

     Firstly a de-escalation in terms of public promises from both sides, and secondly an 'if' clause about whether it happens or not:

     > If de-escalation in Donbas occurs as verified by the existing OSCE observer mission ...

     @kravietz @nemobis