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1. j@mastodon (jcast@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 03-Feb-2022 14:27:46 UTC j@mastodon

   • Ed Summers
   • Mike Harley
   • kravietz 🦇

   @obsolete29 @edsu @kravietz

   I agree with John Mearsheimer that if we want peace, Ukraine must be kept a neutral, buffer region, meaning, not NATO associated.

   I hope it isn't too late for that and we are certainly not moving in the right direction.

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4

   • kravietz 🦇 (kravietz@agora.echelon.pl)'s status on Thursday, 03-Feb-2022 14:27:46 UTC kravietz 🦇

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     • Ed Summers
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     @jcast

     It’s very kind of you to give away someone else’s territory to please an autocrat. You’re from US? How about making a concession and making Miami a “neutral, buffer region”? I mean you want peace, don’t you? I’m sure there’s enough Russian-speaking people there to give a nice justification for their “protection” by Kremlin.

     @obsolete29 @edsu

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   • Ed Summers (edsu@social.coop)'s status on Thursday, 03-Feb-2022 23:51:09 UTC Ed Summers

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     • kravietz 🦇

     @jcast @kravietz @obsolete29 one of the points that Snyder stresses several times in https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/politics-and-more/russias-intentions-in-ukraine-and-america is that discussions about what to do about Ukraine that don't have actual Ukrainians as part of it are not useful.

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   • j@mastodon (jcast@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 03-Feb-2022 23:51:10 UTC j@mastodon

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     • kravietz 🦇

     @kravietz @obsolete29 @edsu

     You realize you're just rooting for war here?

   • kravietz 🦇 (kravietz@agora.echelon.pl)'s status on Thursday, 03-Feb-2022 23:51:16 UTC kravietz 🦇

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     @jcast

     Ukrainians are going through a civil war, baked and backed by foreign countries.

     All armed forces present in Donbass and Crimea belong to just one country - Russia. There are no “foreign countries” there, just one.

     @edsu @obsolete29

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   • j@mastodon (jcast@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 03-Feb-2022 23:51:17 UTC j@mastodon

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     • Ed Summers
     • Mike Harley
     • kravietz 🦇

     @edsu @kravietz @obsolete29

     Ukrainians are going through a civil war, baked and backed by foreign countries.

     What people in these other countries think is very relevant.

   • j@mastodon (jcast@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 03-Feb-2022 23:51:48 UTC j@mastodon

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     • Ed Summers
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     • kravietz 🦇

     @kravietz @obsolete29 @edsu

     Do you deny foreign material support for Ukrainian military and paramilitary forces, including nazis?

   • kravietz 🦇 (kravietz@agora.echelon.pl)'s status on Thursday, 03-Feb-2022 23:51:48 UTC kravietz 🦇

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     • Ed Summers
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     @jcast

     Absolutely no, foreign support for the nazis fighting in Ukraine is a fact

     https://www.thedailybeast.com/wagners-rusich-neo-nazi-attack-unit-hints-its-going-back-into-ukraine-undercover?ref=scroll

     @obsolete29 @edsu