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1. Henry Edward Hardy (hhardy01@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 03-Feb-2022 11:13:12 UTC Henry Edward Hardy

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   Why are you still affiliating with RMS?

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 03-Feb-2022 11:13:04 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     @jcast @matrix @hhardy01 @fsfe @fosdem That is not their view. They condemned his return.
   • j@mastodon (jcast@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 03-Feb-2022 11:13:12 UTC j@mastodon

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     Why would they pay any attention to an ad hominem attack based on misinformation and boosted by corporate open source for profit organisations?

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 03-Feb-2022 11:21:24 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     @hhardy01 The FSFE is not the FSF.
     
     > in the current situation we see ourselves unable to collaborate both with the FSF and any other organisation in which Richard Stallman has a leading position
     
     fsfe.org/news/2021/news-202103…
     
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   • Henry Edward Hardy (hhardy01@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 03-Feb-2022 11:21:25 UTC Henry Edward Hardy

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     What?

   • Henry Edward Hardy (hhardy01@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 03-Feb-2022 11:21:25 UTC Henry Edward Hardy

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     An ad hominem attack would be of the form of "FSF's statement is invalid because they are associated with RMS"

     But I wasn't refuting any argument by FSF. I just asked why they are still affiliating with RMS. Perhaps before you use impressive sounding Latin words you might make sure you understand what they mean? Just a suggestion.

     I am basing my opinion of what RMS said condoning and excusing alleged child rape from the actual transcripts, and the MIT report.

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 03-Feb-2022 11:25:20 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     @hhardy01 They are still a European foundation that promotes software freedom. Changing a name is not a minor thing. They are not collaborating with the FSF.
     
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   • Henry Edward Hardy (hhardy01@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 03-Feb-2022 11:25:21 UTC Henry Edward Hardy

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     FSFE haven't changed the name of the organization. What did they actually change, aside from virtue signaling?

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 03-Feb-2022 11:38:26 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     @hhardy01 @jcast ok
   • Henry Edward Hardy (hhardy01@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 03-Feb-2022 11:38:27 UTC Henry Edward Hardy

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     "Software Freedom" In other words, FSFE are still promoting RMS self-aggrandizing, "'trust us with your copyrights, you can trust us, honest,' charismatic, authoritarian, entitled, misogynist, blaming rape victims, incel vision."

     As someone who was briefly a volunteer sysadmin at the FSF office in Boston, I can say my impression was of a top-down, authoritarian, money and fundraising-driven organization devoted to a cult of personality of an odious person.

     So done with that.