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1. Dave Lane (lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jan-2022 20:14:48 UTC Dave Lane

   I'm not a big fan of Lunduke, but this is very disappointing (but not unexpected): https://lunduke.substack.com/p/linux-foundation-spends-just-34-of the Linux Foundation... doesn't have much to do with Linux. Some of what it does is possibly worthwhile, but its annual report is woefully obscure, opaque, and a lot of it seems to actively relegate Linux to the fringe.

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   • Dave Lane (lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jan-2022 23:06:30 UTC Dave Lane

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     • Lee Riemenschneider

     @lwriemen I followed Roy for a long time, too. Don't agree with everything about his approach, but his reports have had a big hand in shaping my opinion of that not-very-admirable foundation.

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   • Lee Riemenschneider (lwriemen@social.librem.one)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jan-2022 23:06:34 UTC Lee Riemenschneider

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     @lightweight if you have a Gemini browser, techrights.org has a lot of info on the big tech influence in the Linux foundation. (gemini.techrights.org/linuxfoundation/)

   • Dave Lane (lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Monday, 03-Jan-2022 11:33:22 UTC Dave Lane

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     • iShareFreedom

     @isharefreedom heh, I've been contributing for a decade or two :)

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   • iShareFreedom (isharefreedom@hostux.social)'s status on Monday, 03-Jan-2022 11:33:27 UTC iShareFreedom

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     @lightweight join to the free software movement https://www.gnu.org/ & https://www.fsf.org/

   • Dave Lane (lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Monday, 03-Jan-2022 11:33:29 UTC Dave Lane

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     I also note that the Linux Foundation doesn't appear to have a presence in the Fediverse or on any open platforms, instead choosing only to use the centralised proprietary technologies of their board members' employers.

   • Dave Lane (lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Monday, 03-Jan-2022 11:33:30 UTC Dave Lane

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     Just looking for the annual report on their website, but don't see it. I do see, however, that just about all of their 'board' is made up of representatives from the Big 5 (and former big, e.g. IBM and VMWare) Tech firms. That explains plenty.

   • Dave Lane (lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Monday, 03-Jan-2022 11:40:16 UTC Dave Lane

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     • dee :trans:
     • e 🇺🇦

     @mastodon @debugninja it feels to me like another cartel designed to entrench the dominance of big tech players, and engage in mutual back-slapping. And it has nothing to do with #FOSS - at best, it's like a support group for those (almost entirely proprietary) software/hardware organisations who want to *exploit* open source (and downplay/throw shade at Free Software at every opportunity)

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   • e 🇺🇦 (mastodon@koyu.space)'s status on Monday, 03-Jan-2022 11:40:22 UTC e 🇺🇦

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     • dee :trans:

     @lightweight @debugninja
     I guess one could make the argument that the kernel is already well financed due to commercial involvement (but I'm not sure how well it holds up).

   • e 🇺🇦 (mastodon@koyu.space)'s status on Monday, 03-Jan-2022 11:40:23 UTC e 🇺🇦

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     • dee :trans:

     @lightweight
     @debugninja
     The main thing he's concerned about is *the kind* of projects the money goes towards.
     You would expect a "Linux" foundation to primarily work on Linux and the Linux ecosystem, wouldn't you?
     I don't actually mind that they do other stuff, it's already cool that something with Linux in the name does so many cool things and shares the code.
     Still surprising how little they actually seem to be directly involved with Linux, however.

   • dee :trans: (debugninja@banana.dog)'s status on Monday, 03-Jan-2022 11:40:27 UTC dee :trans:

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     @lightweight I wouldnt trust Lunduke as far as I can throw him. This is a very misleading reading of the report. The linux kernel is called out separately at 3.4% but a quick glanceon the summary suggests that Linux Foundation is very efficient with its spending.

     Project support is at over 50% of expenditures (separate from 3.4% of kernel-specific support) and the rest going to infrastructure (a bit over 12%) and community training and events, with barely over 7% costs. I have no idea what Lunduke is on about.

   • Michel Salim :fedora: :centos: (michel_slm@floss.social)'s status on Monday, 03-Jan-2022 18:47:20 UTC Michel Salim :fedora: :centos:

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     • The Doctor

     @lightweight @drwho it's a 501(c)6 so while it's non-profit, it's not the non-profit people are familiar with - the (c)3

     From Wikipedia:
     > A 501(c)(6) organization is a business league, a chamber of commerce like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a real estate board, a board of trade, a professional football league or an organization like the Edison Electric Institute and the Security Industry Association, that are not organized for profit ...

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   • Dave Lane (lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Monday, 03-Jan-2022 18:47:22 UTC Dave Lane

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     • The Doctor

     @drwho they're certainly not a community-focused organisation. They've got a huge staff to keep employed... so whatever concessions it takes, I guess.

   • The Doctor (drwho@hackers.town)'s status on Monday, 03-Jan-2022 18:47:24 UTC The Doctor

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     @lightweight They're largely for and by corps, not us.

   • Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK (vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Monday, 03-Jan-2022 18:47:38 UTC Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK

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     • The Doctor
     • Michel Salim :fedora: :centos:

     @michel_slm @lightweight @drwho

     its like a trade association here in Britain, I do some work for one which represents private health and social care companies as a secondment from my usual employer (who charge for my time at cost price). The trade association isn't meant to make a big profit (just to cover its costs) but it still represents the interests of private companies rather than any wider social change aim (although better conditions in health and social care are a positive thing)

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   • Dave Lane (lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Monday, 03-Jan-2022 19:04:45 UTC Dave Lane

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     • Jonathan Dowland

     @Jmtd last I heard, Linus was on about $300k/year...

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   • Jonathan Dowland (jmtd@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Monday, 03-Jan-2022 19:04:49 UTC Jonathan Dowland

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     @lightweight I wonder how much of that $6M is just Linus’s salary and overheads