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1. Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 30-Dec-2021 05:54:16 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅
   Star Trek style injections in the works!
   
   www.euronews.com/next/2021/12/…
   
   The story is a bit muddied as the new delivery is developed for a new vaccine as well, and the story talks about both.
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   • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Thursday, 30-Dec-2021 14:22:01 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     Interesting. Decades ago, there was talk about using compressed fluids to deposit vaccines underneath the skin. As I recall it, the project started after an oil worker got a boil lanced and the contents turned out to be crude oil. It turned out that highly pressurized oil, together with a pin-hole in a pipe, results in a narrow line of fast-moving liquid that can penetrate the skin.
     
     I guess the older researchers couldn't control it enough to deliver precise doses to the proper depth.
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 30-Dec-2021 16:09:16 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     @geniusmusing Yeah, you can see there under en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_inje… that there are some technical hurdles and health risks, especially in a mass vaccination setting as opposed to e.g. injecting yourself with insulin, which apparently people have been doing since the 80s.
     
     But most people inject their insulin with needles still, so there are probably additional issues that aren't clearly listed in the article.
     
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   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 30-Dec-2021 16:12:42 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     It's interesting to see in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypospra… that the term is actually from sci-fi older than Star Trek and that even the first real-world patent was filed before Star Trek.
     
     And yet this isn't mainstream yet. Seems there are many kinks to sort out. But surely we'll have it working before we figure out interstellar travel.
     
     @lnxw48a1 @geniusmusing
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 30-Dec-2021 16:31:30 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Sean Tilley
     @cjd @sean The jet injector WP page is pretty exhaustive and mentions this stuff. The trick is to make the jet "needle" thin enough, but there are still issues, so we'll see if they really cracked it this time.
   • Caleb James DeLisle (cjd@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 30-Dec-2021 16:31:31 UTC Caleb James DeLisle

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     • Sean Tilley

     @clacke
     It's very well known by people dealing with hydraulics that you need to keep your hands well away from potentially leaky pipes because you will get poisoned.

     Also I believe the US military has done vaccination via hydraulic jet penetration, at least in the 90s... But that it hurts a lot. @sean might know more...

   • insertuser@en.osm.town's status on Thursday, 30-Dec-2021 22:01:08 UTC InsertUser

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     • Sean Tilley

     @clacke @cjd @sean The Article I half remember about them said that the conclusion to the research into them was that there were significant cross contamination risks to the point that it was basically as risky as reusing needles. The only functional solutions to that issue involved disposable end bits that ended up being more expensive than disposable syringes, but with the additional burden of the expensive gun they mount to.

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