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1. Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 28-May-2018 10:14:47 UTC Hallå Kitteh

   • Annah
   @maiyannah
   
   > They're a minority even compared to GNU social right now
   
   Depends how you count. Not if you count instances:
   
   https://pleroma.soykaf.com/objects/5db4ecdc-9495-4c9b-aae7-d28370e69c13
   
   https://fediverse.network/
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 28-May-2018 14:47:34 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Annah
     • Bernie
     @codewiz @maiyannah Slack nailed identity? You have a new one for each community, and in tighter communities you even have to tie each identity to a different mail address.
     
     Centralization makes points #2 and #3 easy.
     
     If you defederate and make registration invite-only, you have solved abuse exactly the way Slack did.
     
     #5 is a problem when self-hosting on a phone, I'm aware. Easy and secure backups is a hard #userops problem.
     
     Centralization making everything easy doesn't mean we shouldn't work on solving decentralization and ultimately p2p.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 28-May-2018 14:48:55 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Annah
     • Bernie
     @codewiz @maiyannah IRC isn't an open federation, it is a federation between trusted servers. You can't connect to FreeNode with your EFNet identity.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 28-May-2018 14:49:34 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Annah
     • Bernie
     @karolat @maiyannah @codewiz :-D
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 28-May-2018 14:52:01 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Annah
     • Bernie
     @karolat @maiyannah @codewiz
     
     > i personally have never used these accounts for block circumvention
     
     You mean deliberately. But are you sure? Surely you are following people on one instance that you wouldn't be able to follow from another?
     
     I mean, I was suspended for block circumvention without knowing that I was doing it. I thought I was just routing around software deficiencies.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 28-May-2018 17:44:05 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Annah
     • Bernie
     @codewiz @maiyannah I don't see that Slack had to leave IRC to fix these two things.
     
     They had to leave IRC because VC.