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1. Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Apr-2018 17:28:53 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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   > An e-mail _server_, OStatus _server_, XMPP _server_ etc. need to be available _all the time_, or near enough to make no difference.
   
   That is only true because of how the protocols work.
   
   #ssb is designed to handle intermittent connections and drop points. There is no global blockchain. There is an issue of how much to replicate and how much to miss out on, and pubs are doing maybe a bit too much work, but those things are being worked on as well, improving granularity along various axes.
   
   For IM, sure, if you want to send offline messages your peers need to be online at the same time at some point, but for people you usually have synchronous conversations with, this isn't a big issue.
   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Apr-2018 21:45:07 UTC MMN-o ✅⃠

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     @clacke How long do you cache something that's supposed to be delivered asynchronously? If it's cached, who holds that information? If the two peers who hold this information are very seldom online at the same time, how long is an acceptable delivery delay? If magic distribution via third parties is possible, how is this information protected?
     
     Say what, you mean that users enjoy reading and comparing fingerprints, never fail to take encryption and verification instructions seriously and also back up their secret keys in a non-ridiculous manner? Well then, I guess it's all fine and dandy. Forget I ever said anything .)
   • worst girl 🏴‍☠️ (xj9@sunshinegardens.org)'s status on Thursday, 05-Apr-2018 00:10:51 UTC worst girl 🏴‍☠️

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     • MMN-o ✅⃠

     @mmn indefinitely. by your social graph. as long as it takes. cryptographically authenticated append-only log.

     Hallå Kitteh repeated this.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 05-Apr-2018 00:42:34 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     • MMN-o ✅⃠
     @mmn No. You discover other users through their postings and referral from friends, so key exchange is never an issue. If you do want to talk to a meat friend, then sure, they will give you their public key hash "hey here's my user id", and that's your key exchange party.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 05-Apr-2018 00:51:33 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     That is true. But most servers will mail you annoying messages about the delays. :-)