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Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Mar-2018 15:13:20 UTC Hallå Kitteh
@pnathan @saper @natecull @loke @mcmoots That sounds vaguely familiar. Will look it up again.

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- ⚗️⚗️⚗️ pnathan ⚗️⚗️⚗️ (pnathan@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 12-Mar-2018 23:59:23 UTC ⚗️⚗️⚗️ pnathan ⚗️⚗️⚗️
  - Marcin Cieślak
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  @saper @mcmoots maybe a decade ago now, I guess, I saw some events, and realized that rms had predicted it & a number of other things (or analogues of same) years prior. at that point it was like, "welp, ok. time to take him seriously and presume correctness"
  
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- Marcin Cieślak (saper@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Mar-2018 19:58:24 UTC Marcin Cieślak
  @pnathan @mcmoots @kensanata
  created
  https://communitywiki.org/wiki/FreeSoftwareNextGen
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- Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Mar-2018 07:17:57 UTC Hallå Kitteh
  @natecull @saper @pnathan @mcmoots This sounds like you want to fire up another autonomo.us (now a parked domain), hopefully with better longevity.
  
  We did get GNU Social out of it that time, so it wasn't completely lost.
  
  https://mako.cc/copyrighteous/autonomous-and-the-franklin-street-statement
  
  identi.ca existed before autonomo.us, but Evan was very much involved with and inspired by the movement, and identi.ca was motivated by a will to offer a service that complied with the nascent Free Service recommendations that would become the Franklin Street Statement. You will see him below endorsing the FSS and be listed as a contributor to the OSSD.
  
  https://social.heldscal.la/url/1376732
  
  Didn't look at http://opendefinition.org/ossd/ before, but it says pretty much the same as the FSS, partly stricter, partly looser. They misspelled Evan's last name. :-)
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- ⚗️⚗️⚗️ pnathan ⚗️⚗️⚗️ (pnathan@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Mar-2018 07:23:03 UTC ⚗️⚗️⚗️ pnathan ⚗️⚗️⚗️
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  @clacke @mcmoots @natecull @saper fascinating.
  I think that looking forward 15 years, we don't have "the web", we have some layer of thin client applications and remote servers for heavy lifting, actual HTML is almost non-existent. IoT speaks json exclusively to the remote servers.
  and we have to think what *matters* and what we can do - both in an idealized way and in a practical way
  
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- Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Mar-2018 07:29:38 UTC Hallå Kitteh
  - Alex Schroeder 🐝
  @kensanata I stumbled upon http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/StallmanVsFiddes and noticed that you wrote a few things there. :-)
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- Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Mar-2018 07:36:08 UTC Hallå Kitteh
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  @pnathan @saper @natecull @mcmoots So looking forward 15 years is like looking back 25 years? Is there a pendulum in motion?
  
  Is it the same pendulum as the client/server<->personal_computer one, or is the generic_client<->specialized_client motion separate (although related)?
  
  I think the happy mean is mostly using specialized clients, but having the web as a generic view of the data, for serendipity and accessibility. Everything having a dereferenceable URI is a great thing.
  
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- Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Mar-2018 07:45:21 UTC Hallå Kitteh
  @natecull @saper @pnathan @mcmoots Extending JSON is best done with JSON-LD, I believe. Then you're halfway back at XML in terms of human readability and writeability, but you've at least gained SemWeb semantics.
  
  If you want more readable JSON, you can try serializing it as YAML instead. There is a large subset of JSON that is valid YAML, but YAML also offers more whitespacey and less noisy syntax.
  
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- Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Mar-2018 07:47:05 UTC Hallå Kitteh
  @lain @saper @pnathan @natecull @mcmoots Yes. You need to consider the alternatives, if there even are any.
  
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- Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Mar-2018 07:48:38 UTC Hallå Kitteh
  @natecull @saper @pnathan @mcmoots I'm rather enjoying writing Nix, which is fortunate, as that's what I'm doing a lot now. :-)
  
  It has some evolutionary warts, but it's vaguely JSON-y with the curlies and squares, and it uses whitespace rather than commas to separate list items (and also arguments if you use functions and not just the data format).
  
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- Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Mar-2018 07:51:42 UTC Hallå Kitteh
  @pnathan @saper @natecull @lain @mcmoots That's an oddly specific reference. :-)
  
  Did you work at a power company?
  
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- Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Mar-2018 07:58:19 UTC Hallå Kitteh
  @natecull @saper @pnathan @mcmoots
  
  Makes me think of this thing:
  
  https://joeyh.name/blog/entry/extending_Scuttlebutt_with_Annah/
  
  But also of how languages in Racket work.
  
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- Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Mar-2018 15:01:29 UTC Hallå Kitteh
  @pnathan @saper @natecull @loke @mcmoots https://docs.racket-lang.org/ts-reference/
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- Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Mar-2018 15:16:15 UTC Hallå Kitteh
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  @saper @pnathan @natecull @loke @mcmoots
  
  > an integrated fully functional Prolog,
  > an inbuilt compiler-compiler.
  > runs under CLisp, SBCL, Clojure, Scheme, Ruby, Python, the JVM, Haskell and Javascript
  
  Wow, ok.
  
  http://shenlanguage.org/
  
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- Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Mar-2018 16:04:00 UTC Hallå Kitteh
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  @saper @pnathan @natecull @loke @mcmoots It's like, when I see this page my kneejerk reaction is that it must be some hoax because why wouldn't everybody be using this already.
  
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