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1. DT (dt@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Aug-2017 07:39:41 UTC DT

   • Dolus
   • Ja tu zara go szabelką zaciukam xD
   @dolus @roka
   >The less radical ones can see how awful the USSR and Communist China are.
   Ask any socialist on anticapitalist.party, they'll tell you that USSR is not socialist. That's how they dodge their responsibility to justify the system.
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   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Aug-2017 07:42:24 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Dolus
     • Ja tu zara go szabelką zaciukam xD
     @roka @dolus @dt Even worse, they called him a social democrat. Traitors to the cause are often hated more than the opponents.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Aug-2017 07:45:10 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     • Hallå Kitteh
     He probably wasn't a social democrat though:
     
     tomwoods.com/970
     
     traffic.libsyn.com/tomwoodsshow/woods_2017_08_08.mp3
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Aug-2017 07:50:01 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     • Hallå Kitteh
     > Orwell described himself as lower-upper-middle class, failing to realise that there are only two classes: the capitalist class which possesses but does not produce and the working class which produces but does not possess.
     
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     https://social.heldscal.la/url/713899
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Aug-2017 07:53:57 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     > A common view held by the political right-wing is that Orwell exposed the horrors of "socialism" by predicting what would happen under a regime of the Stalinist model which the right-wing claims to be representative of all socialist ideals, conveniently ignoring the fact that he was writing about state capitalism represented as socialism
     
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     At the end though, the article describes how the extreme left felt about his views and it pretty much agrees with the guesses in our thread here.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Aug-2017 08:02:03 UTC Hallå Kitteh
     @dt No need to. Just say Stalin and/or Lenin betrayed the ideals and the system never got the chance to show its worth. Or go further back and say the Mensheviks had the right idea.