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1. Nate Cull (natecull@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2017 04:38:20 UTC Nate Cull

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   @h A classic example is trying to write an object-oriented database system in PHP or C#. You build a database schema in SQL. Then you painfully and manually wrap your SQL schema as a tree of object classes. Then you painfully and manually write XML configuration files to glue it all together.

   Or you use some proprietary half-specified tool that promises to generate all the boilerplate for you.

   All this boilerplate *shouldn't exist*. It means our languages are modelling the wrong thing.

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   • Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2017 06:55:04 UTC Bob Mottram

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     @h @natecull The semantic web idea has been around for a long time, but never took off. The markup was way too complex and of limited usefulness. Also the semantic web would have reduced a lot of fricton for the user, whereas most web companies want to introduce friction and then monetize it.
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   • Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2017 06:59:18 UTC Bob Mottram

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     @natecull @h If the semantic web is ever to work then creating an ontology and linking it to web functionality needs to be easy.
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   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2017 08:52:44 UTC Hallå Kitteh
     @natecull Erlang?
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2017 09:04:49 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setun#Dialog_System_for_Structured_Programming_.28DSSP.29
     
     Never heard of. Exotic!
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2017 09:13:39 UTC Hallå Kitteh
     @natecull So ... minikanren? ;-)
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2017 09:14:05 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2017 09:15:18 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     > Forth implemented in Rust for some reason^W^Wrealtime application
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2017 14:10:46 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     > who the fuck uses prolog syntax
     
     > who the fuck actually likes that
     
     Joe on both accounts! :-)
     
     I think it's pretty crazy that anyone ever was thinking up a new language and then went "I know, I'll implement it in Prolog!".
     
     > I expect everything to be reversible but it isn't :(
     
     But then again, Byrd implemented Scheme in minikanren. And that *is* reversible!