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1. Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 15-Jun-2017 03:18:42 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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   @dogjaw @lambadalambda @takeshitakenji Are you talking ISIS or terrorism in general?
   
   If ISIS robs your banks and burgles your homes, is that an act of war?
   
   Isn't the difference that it's a state-like actor with territory, rather than the fact that it's terrorism?
   • Constance Variable (lambadalambda@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2017 14:52:32 UTC Constance Variable

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     @takeshitakenji tfw live in shithole where everyone is safe and well-off.
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   • 御園はくい (hakui@freezepeach.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2017 18:42:50 UTC 御園はくい

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     @dogjaw @lambadalambda @takeshitakenji "back then people started a war on a country because of a small terrorist attack"
     
     the great war was a disaster
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   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 15-Jun-2017 00:27:33 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @dogjaw @lambadalambda @takeshitakenji Terrorism is a crime. Like all crime, it can be discouraged by law enforcement, but never eliminated.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 15-Jun-2017 00:37:49 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @dogjaw @lambadalambda @takeshitakenji That's just rhetoric, and leads people to the wrong ideas on how to solve it.
     
     There's no military position to attack. Artillery, air force, navy, infantry, marines are useless against it.
     
     The RAF, IRA, ETA weren't stopped by military assault.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 15-Jun-2017 00:46:57 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @dogjaw @lambadalambda @takeshitakenji Destroying the financial base of ISIS may or may not help. But the IRA wasn't funded by Ireland, IIUC it was mostly funded by US Irish. Should the UK have declared war on the US? Should Spain and West Germany have declared war on themselves? Or West Germany on East Germany? What good would it have done?
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 15-Jun-2017 00:49:52 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @dogjaw @lambadalambda @takeshitakenji When they do take territory, it's war, and military action helps. In Syria, Iraq and the Philippines.
     
     In the UK, France and other places in Europe, not so much.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 15-Jun-2017 00:50:39 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @dogjaw @lambadalambda @takeshitakenji
     
     But that would be treating it like a crime.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 15-Jun-2017 00:55:53 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @dogjaw @lambadalambda @takeshitakenji And sow conflict and enhance the status of their organisation to gain warriors, yes.
     
     So in the case of ISIS, the terrorism is tied to a war. Apart from fighting the war down there to remove their source of funding and moral support, that doesn't make it helpful to treat the attacks as anything that can be stopped by anything other than police work.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 15-Jun-2017 00:57:14 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @dogjaw @lambadalambda @takeshitakenji Explain how calling it a war changes how it should be fought.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 15-Jun-2017 03:21:42 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @lambadalambda @takeshitakenji @dogjaw Also, in a terrorism franchise, "they" is a bit fuzzy.
     
     Are the guys in Marawi actually funded and have received advice and/or orders from Raqqa, or did they just order the flag from the online shop?