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1. Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Tuesday, 30-May-2017 02:10:30 UTC Hallå Kitteh

   • Eugen 🎄
   @gargron I think nobody has tried to count how many accounts are actually actively used, and when arguing that Masto brought a great benefit to humanity, I'm going to err on the side of caution.
   
   I don't think every person made more than 6 accounts, I think that for each person that actively uses the software, there are several that had a look and then got disappointed, bored or distracted, because you never know what something is before you try it.
   
   Do you believe the > 100k users each on quitter.se and gnusocial.de are all active human users of GNU Social? I personally have created accounts on at least six GS servers and one Masto server in the last year.
   • Sandro Hawke (sandhawke@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 25-May-2017 16:26:07 UTC Sandro Hawke

     • Maiyannah Bishop
     • Simon 🌧
     • Matteo De Micheli
     • ghedipunk

     @maiyannah @matteodem @ghedipunk @simonv3 Because so many folks are already locked into github, another option would be to add an ostatus bridge for github. I think an independent 3rd party could do that, but I haven''t worked through the details. I prefer not trying to convince everyone to move, but just letting the folks who want to move do so. Github could revoke its API key, but unlike some, I doubt they would.

     Hallå Kitteh repeated this.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2017 01:45:07 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Maiyannah Bishop
     • Simon 🌧
     • Sandro Hawke
     • Matteo De Micheli
     • ghedipunk
     @matteodem ( https://mastodon.social/users/matteodem/updates/2473272 ):
     >>>> so why isn't there a decentralized github? is there even a need for one?
     
     @maiyannah ( https://plateia.org/notice/173689 ):
     >>> You know gitlab exists right?
     
     @matteodem ( https://mastodon.social/@matteodem/7138740 ):
     
     >> self-hostable and decentralized are two different things
     
     @maiyannah:
     
     > No they are not, by definition.
     
     Decentralization and self-hosting certainly aren't synonyms, but they also aren't separate.
     
     You can't have decentralization without making it easy for people to host their own nodes, and people hosting things on their own is by definition not centralization.
     
     A decentralized network and interoperability between nodes of course doesn't come about by itself, but hosting your own gitlab/gittea/whatever and stepping away from the social and technological Single Point of Failure that is github, and that is huge progress.
     
     <insert git-ssb shill here>
     
     @simonv3 @sandhawke @ghedipunk
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2017 01:58:14 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • worst girl 🏴‍☠️
     @xj9
     
     > github link
     
     :-D
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2017 02:01:31 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Maiyannah Bishop
     • notjeff
     • Simon 🌧
     • Sandro Hawke
     • Matteo De Micheli
     • ghedipunk
     @notjeff @matteodem @maiyannah @simonv3 @sandhawke @ghedipunk
     
     If we want to stay a cult of technological inbreeds consisting exclusively of people born before 1985 and those few who make the effort to climb the wall before knowing whether it's worth it: Yes, absolutely.
     
     If we want people to find our projects and effortlessly contribute their improvements, we need to provide platforms where those projects can be accessible. And if we want the world to be a better place for free software and freedom in general, we need those platforms not to be github, facebook, slack and discord.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2017 02:03:05 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     in reply to
     Mastodon development being coordinated on Discord is the biggest failure today in the part of the software world I see and care about the most.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2017 02:08:34 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Maiyannah Bishop
     • notjeff
     • Simon 🌧
     • Sandro Hawke
     • Matteo De Micheli
     • ghedipunk
     @notjeff @matteodem @maiyannah @simonv3 @sandhawke @ghedipunk
     
     If we want new people to join the creation of Free Software, we can't push the effort to them. We can't build it and they will come. If we make the first contribution as frictionless as possible, they will learn the proper tools in time.
     
     Centralization has absolutely solved the accessibility problem.
     
     A vast majority of Swedes all ages have their own blog now, except they call it a facebook account and they don't control it.
     
     Most new Free Software projects are on github, and people are finding and contributing to projects with ease. But their data is in the hands of an uncaring corporation.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2017 02:09:30 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • notjeff
     @notjeff But we don't. Because it isn't. Because nobody did it. And our ISPs don't even provide Usenet nodes anymore like they did in the 90s.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2017 02:15:49 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Maiyannah Bishop
     • notjeff
     • Matteo De Micheli
     @notjeff @matteodem @maiyannah
     
     You don't consider it a problem that Free Software is trying to solve centralization through a centralized service?
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2017 02:33:57 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Maiyannah Bishop
     • notjeff
     • Matteo De Micheli
     @notjeff @matteodem @maiyannah I don't hear any solutions from you except "This is fine. I'm fine with this.".
     
     Meanwhile, people are asking for and building solutions, so in the long term it will actually be fine.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2017 07:43:40 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Maiyannah Bishop
     • notjeff
     • Matteo De Micheli
     @matteodem @notjeff @maiyannah No, just your server is blocking their server.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2017 23:35:48 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Eugen 🎄
     • notjeff
     • Matteo De Micheli
     @matteodem If you hover over the @notjeff link you'll see that they're on gs.smuglo.li. To find out what servers are blocked, I guess you'll have to ask @gargron. Some instances list their blocks on their about page, mastosoc doesn't.
     
     @notjeff mastosoc is blocking GNU/Smug.
     
     Problem here is, the internet does not route around it as it's Matteo's home server causing the trouble. Unless he changes servers.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Tuesday, 30-May-2017 00:04:25 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Eugen 🎄
     • notjeff
     • Matteo De Micheli
     @notjeff @gargron @matteodem And yet he has brought free software to 600k accounts, maybe as many as 100k humans.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Tuesday, 30-May-2017 02:14:31 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     in reply to

     • Eugen 🎄
     @gargron I don't remember the correct numbers, but I believe that I'm in the ballpark when I say that identi.ca before the #pumpocalypse had something like 120000 users, and Evan kept something like 20000 users when filtering for any activity at all in the preceding 12 months.